Emily to Gremily
A podcast about the stories that start out normal and spiral into something unforgettable. Hosted by Emily Hogan, Emily to Gremily blends humor, honesty, and a touch of chaos through solo episodes and guest features. Expect cocktails, unfiltered “gremlin" stories, pop culture hot takes, and internet obsessions.
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Emily to Gremily
Men Are Trash
What happens when men with all the resources, influence, and opportunity in the world still manage to disappoint? In this unfiltered conversation with returning guest Spice, we dive deep into the hypocrisies and failures of modern masculinity.
Spice shares exciting news about launching her own podcast called "Men Are Trash," where she'll expose problematic male behavior. Drawing from her experience as a retired sex worker, Spice offers a powerful perspective on this blatant double standard that perfectly exemplifies why her new podcast is necessary in today's climate.
The conversation takes fascinating turns as we explore why ultra-wealthy men often become bored despite unlimited possibilities, the troubling TikTok saga of a content creator's unbalanced marriage, and our critical takes on how Hollywood portrays sex work through a disappointing male gaze. Between discussing our mutual love for gangster films and reality TV recommendations, we share stories about witnessing injustice and why neither of us can stay silent when we see someone being wronged.
Throughout it all runs a central question: Why do so many men fail to "go the distance" anymore? As we reminisce about romantic classics like The Notebook, we can't help but wonder, what happened to men who would build houses and write 365 letters? This blend of cultural criticism, personal experience, and unapologetic honesty creates a thought-provoking look at gender dynamics that will leave you examining your own expectations and experiences.
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cheers. All right, this is like take four of this podcast episode, but she made it technical. Technical difficulties, that's strong. We did vodka soda for this episode and, um, that's a lot of vodka. You needed it.
Speaker 2:Now I do geez.
Speaker 1:It's really hard being sound Audio.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's already been a long day.
Speaker 1:I need a sound and visual engineer. If anyone knows someone or if you want to be one, hit me up. Okay, we're on podcast number episode two, emily degramoli. Again, we're back here with spice. Hello, hello. Thanks for having me again, of course, thanks for working through my technical difficulty. I've got patience. I've got you got patience, we got time. Yes, you have patience. I don't have patience. Certain things. I was over here about to throw um a full-on tantrum, I know I saw I was like it's gonna happen. Did you see me start to grumbling out where I was like don't break the computer, don't break the computer like wait we need the computer, don't break it in half don't snap it.
Speaker 2:I say she's gonna snap it. I see she's going to snap.
Speaker 1:It's okay.
Speaker 2:It's working?
Speaker 1:Yes, and if it's not working, then we're going to do it's working, take five, take five. All right, we got it going. Hopefully sound and video is working. I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 1:I'm flustered yes, he's a little flustered I'm having I'm having issues, but we're good, we're good we're back. Episode bigger episode one was a success. It was, it was fun. We're happy with it, we're excited, we got good feedback and we're back for episode two. Yes, and we did our homework. Yes, well, I thought we did our homework and then I couldn't figure out the system today.
Speaker 2:That was a technicality, okay.
Speaker 1:We were almost there, almost almost. Episode three will be hopefully a little less clunky. Yes, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2:I don't know, check back next week. We'll smooth it out, it'll get there.
Speaker 1:Yes, so Emily DeGrammely, episode two Again, our drink of the week is, it's a simple one Vodka soda, again with Tito's. We're trying to be healthy. Yes, yeah, we thought low-cal, not so much sugar.
Speaker 2:Yes, because you choke to death and I'm like the bubbles, the bubbles.
Speaker 1:My bubbles. So what's been new since last week? How are your bebes? Oh, oh, they're so good. And my babies, I mean kitties yes, um, my babies are amazing.
Speaker 2:So my baby's name are maze, maizey and pj, named after pucifer, so it's pucifer jr. So he's doing good. He's so annoying, I'm not even gonna lie.
Speaker 1:I need to get his little kitten face.
Speaker 2:Yes and his balls are making him go nuts, like I haven't gotten him fixed yet.
Speaker 1:Yes, you're holding off on it.
Speaker 2:He's so rambunctious Like I can't. Yesterday I was wearing a robe and he went under the robe. It's like pretty long, like kind of my ankles. It was a hotel robe and he jumped up it and, trying to climb my leg, he just like kept jumping up towards my ass.
Speaker 1:It was like I was like get out.
Speaker 2:You know, he's just full of so much energy. I love him so much. He's so mouthy, he talks all the time and what PJ wants, PJ gets. And is Maisie just like? She's so docile now? Is she just like the older sister, like, yeah, she just scoffs at him and she's getting?
Speaker 1:really annoyed when I try to play with her, like with one of the cat toys and the ones that like dangle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they jump like with the feathers and stuff. Yeah, she wants to play and so I give her play time but he takes over. He takes over like he is faster than her, you know, because he's a kitten. So she just goes and like walks away. She doesn't want to play anymore. So, like, if I want to play with her, I have to like put him in the cat room and like play with her and give her undivided attention, because I can tell she is not happy.
Speaker 1:She's not feeling it Like having to share playtime.
Speaker 2:She'll like. Look She'll be like. Are you kidding? My turn to like play with the toy. She's good, she, she's good, she sleeps all day. And she's my little chunky monkey girl. They're good, they're health wise, so much better. Mace had that rash that was like ridiculous. Yeah, they're good. Pj has no more coughing spasms or whatever.
Speaker 1:The last time we were talking we were talking about maybe he has asthma, yeah, and he might need that little inhaler yeah, they prescribed him one, but I haven't had to use it yet okay, he hasn't had any reason for me to use it, but yeah, if he, it's gonna be hilarious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're gonna dress him up as bane yeah, that's what I was like.
Speaker 1:I hope he doesn't need the inhaler. I hope he doesn't have asthma, but if he does, bright side is the cutest little. He's like a little bane.
Speaker 2:I was born in the darkness yeah, they're good, they're spoiled. They live in large and in charge for sure and, yeah, I can't get enough of them. I love my sphinxes.
Speaker 1:They're so cute yeah, oh yeah, that's the other thing they're, they're naked they live life in the nude. They are almost like their mama yes, we're all nudists around here.
Speaker 2:It's so weird being with emily's cats, where they have whiskers and fur and I don't know yeah she was playing with them and she was like oh my god, they have whiskers.
Speaker 1:And I was like oh yeah, your cats I have no whiskers, no, no. Like what is it? Eyelashes or eyebrow? Whatever they got nothing, they got nothing, they're like albino.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's so weird. They have the dots where whiskers would be, but nothing grows out of them it's the weirdest thing, yeah, yeah, no, we're good, we're very much happy at home. Yes, thank you. And then Maybe still hisses at him, but that's never going to go away. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then we have new news, which is you're coming out with your own podcast too. I am yes. Which? Is by your back so we can talk about it. I'm Get a little taste of what it's going to be about. So, the name of the podcast Men Are Trash Podcast. Because they are yes and these days we're living in.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, but we're just going to keep exposing these bad men. We're just going to keep exposing them and you know they just keep giving us reasons to. So it's a never-ending content for me. You know, I'm like every day is a new feel like you're gonna have a lot of episodes where you could just talk about what's going on that week. Yeah, no, literally the political climate, everything. There's a new. There's a new headline with a new man doing something horrific, every, every goddamn day. So, like I said, never-ending content to talk about yeah, lots to work with.
Speaker 2:Yes, so men are trash podcast. I'm super excited it will probably. I don't have a set launch date. I think I want to be by mid-April Cool. Yes. So we're nearing the end of March. I don't want to wait until the end of the month. I want to do it mid-month. Nice, get that little jump off point and we will be doing episodes every Sunday Fun.
Speaker 1:Yes, exciting Every Sunday, so I'm very excited about that. It took me, like you know, I had a launch date and then it just kept getting pushed back, pushed back, pushed back. It's like I can't plan because life doesn't care about your plan. No, yeah, there was always something going on. I was like, okay, you know what, next week, next week, it'll be fine. And then I was like I need to stop announcing it because people are going to be like, okay, yeah, so what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, throw it out there, and it's hard with my cats. They're so mouthy so I really need to soundproof the room, like really soundproof it, and coordinate it around their nap time, because otherwise they're scratching at the door, right they're.
Speaker 1:I mean, they could just be like I was just gonna feature them in it at the end of the day.
Speaker 2:But we'll see how that goes. Yeah, I think they could be my co-host, really host really at the end of the day, to just make that work there you go, and is it going to be just you, or are you gonna have guests? It's gonna be me. We'll have guests as well. Uh, probably every other week, not every episode, but yeah, I want to get people's opinions on the things that I'm speaking about and people to speak about their own personal experiences with men, which we got we all have that experience we all have something every woman's got a story every man's got a story.
Speaker 1:Every man's got a story too.
Speaker 2:We're going to have plenty of guests to assist me in taking these men down.
Speaker 1:What's an example of an episode? What are?
Speaker 2:we talking about. I had my first episode planned out I really did but now something else just came amiss and inspired me to take him down first. Not necessarily take him down, just speak on him. Since he wants to talk shit, we will talk shit right back with him. So my first episode was going to be based on the documentary that I watched called house of hammer oh, about army hammer yeah, and his yes, but alleged cannibalism because, apparently we're not allowed to say he actually is one that's so stupid.
Speaker 2:Um, how they did that. But the hammer family itself is like an unbreakable dynasty and from generation to generation have gotten away with horrific things, horrific. And when I was done watching that documentary I was just like horrified, so horrified yes, and inspired.
Speaker 2:And I live right next to the hammer museum and that was the first time I saw that name. Like I never thought about army hammer when I thought, when I saw the documentary house of hammer, I was like, oh, hammer museum, you know and you see, like hammer, the hammer foundation, and like there's other places in homey hills, like hammer park, like there's all these different things, and I was like, wow, this family is very well protected. Yes, they can buy their way out of anything they always have.
Speaker 2:And each man, generation to generation to generation, has just passed down all they just get worse and worse worse and worse, but it's like they're bred to do these things, so we're going to talk about them on episode two. Episode one is going to be focusing on bill maher Ah.
Speaker 1:Yes, I have a feeling, mr Maher, on why yes, since he just recently made headlines, for how did he put it so delicately?
Speaker 2:Basically, how would we say that Bill Maher doesn't agree that prostitutes are sex workers, or he was very much astounded that we get the respect of being called the sex worker community when we're simply prostitutes. Yeah, okay, you know what I mean. So I'm like no and I had you're not loving that.
Speaker 2:Not loving that because I know the man personally and I know personally what he's done and I mean it's not like he hasn't been in the media for it before. He's notoriously known for hiring sex workers. That's the only person who will sleep with him. The only person who will sleep with him is if they're paid to. So when I saw that episode first, I saw the article, saw the article, went to go read the whole article and then he doubled down and posted it, even on his own Instagram.
Speaker 2:It was like a three minute long reel or whatever, of the clip of his show real time with bill maher, and I was astounded with the things that were coming out of his mouth. And men just think they can get away with saying whatever they want and unless you're gonna pay to silence me a lot of money, I'm gonna talk my shit just like. You're free to talk your shit, not like. So whatever. He didn't ask me to sign anything. Well, there we go, there we go. He didn't ask me to sign shit. So stay tuned for all the juicy details because I, like I said, I know this man personally. I think it's so disrespectful what he said, even having what I thought was even some type of friendship. You know what I mean, aside from the way that I met him, which we'll get into in my episode. But he's a connoisseur of hose, so for him to look down on hose I'm not here for it, did he?
Speaker 1:I mean, I wasn't like fully. I saw the article and I was just like, okay, here we go, yeah, but was he mainly talking about? He compares it to slavery. Yeah, like is that?
Speaker 2:what it was off the back of like so yeah, it was very frustrating yeah, he was basically saying that the oscars should have been called the johns. Oh, and I was like so now you're disgracing the oscars you know what? I mean he talked shit about sean baker himself saying because all sean baker's films are based off sex workers, you know, he brings light to different types of sex work.
Speaker 2:My favorite movie is tangerine, which sheds light on the sex, the trans, transgender, sex worker community that work the streets of la, and it was so realistic. I thought it was very spot on.
Speaker 2:He uses a lot of same people in his movies too, and I kind of like that and they play different characters and do cameos and different ones, like the driver in onora the priest guy is mainly driving, he's in Tangerine as a taxi driver. And the woman at the end of Anora who's doing the annulment, the blonde woman. She plays a sex worker in Tangerine. So he reads the same people. But Bill had the nerve to say like I think Sean Baker is like obsessed with whores, and I'm like, says the baker is like obsessed with whores. And I'm like, says the man who's obsessed with whores, like are you kidding me? Like he's just gone too far, put his foot in his mouth. And he always put his foot in his mouth on his show. You know, no one ever says anything.
Speaker 2:I don't really watch, grandpa needs to go to bed like basically okay, grandpa needs to go to bed, so we're gonna put him to bed. Okay, there we go stay tuned guys every episode.
Speaker 2:It could be current events, it could be past events. We're just basically diving into the atrocities men have committed since the beginning of time. We got a lot to work with. Yeah, yeah, yes, you're gonna never run out of content. Seriously, I could open a history book. I could open a magazine. I could open instagram and find anything to go on. There you go. They're giving us a reason. Yes, stop giving us reasons. Stop giving the reasons. Actually, don't, don't stop giving us reasons. You're like wait, hold on, I need more content. I take that back, yes, yeah, so I'm going to get into. He said Right, perfect, yeah, the screenshots will be there, the receipts, the timeline, all there. Are you nervous about like retaliation? Not really. What can you say? I'm not defaming you Like you could threaten to sue for defamation, libel, whatever, but I have a perfectly good defense for that. There's nothing that.
Speaker 2:I've said it's not defamation, if it's true yeah, I'm like I have the text messages, I have my own experiences with you. There's nothing you can do. The only thing has that could happen is his lawyers reach out to me and ask me to sign an nda and ask not to speak about him anymore, and I'm like, okay, I want six figures. Oh yeah, so there's that we'll see.
Speaker 1:I'm not scared of him.
Speaker 2:I'm not scared of an old crinkly white man they're usually old.
Speaker 1:And who wears shoulder pads?
Speaker 2:oh, he's so insecure. Yes, to wear shoulder pads to make himself feel big and broad.
Speaker 1:No, I feel like I'm wearing shoulder pads because my my sweater's bulky. No, no, no, yeah, I'm like man, I'm like.
Speaker 2:You dye your hair, you wear makeup, you wear shoulder pads like stop talking shit about women when you wear more makeup than I do, don't do it we got lots of animosity, yeah let's go go. People get outed all the time in hollywood like right, you're no different. This isn't some scandal like be fucking for real, be fucking pro.
Speaker 1:It's not that serious it's not a an army hammer scandal. Yeah, you know, he's not eating people here.
Speaker 2:Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly yes he didn't say he wanted to cut out one of my ribs and barbecue it and eat it. So you know, did you?
Speaker 1:okay, so I guess army hammer now has a podcast. I saw I have very low budget too, for who he is I haven't.
Speaker 1:I mean, I haven't seen it. I don't know how low budget this is looking right now. We'll see when I edit it. Um, but it's. I've only heard about it from other podcasts or other people are talking about it, and he had made a comment that he was, I guess he like made out with another man, a French man, and that he, the guy, went to go touch him and that the guy was like, oh no, no, no, because he wasn't hard. And it's like you don't have to tell these stories, bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like you could just keep it to yourself. What, what's this podcast they like to?
Speaker 2:yap about things, because I think they're just bored with their lame lives like the richest people are the poorest people like money can't buy you everything. I do remember this conversation I had, he's so rich he's poor with this.
Speaker 1:this guy and you know he was very well off Couldn't tell you who he is or what he did. I just know he had a very great deal amount of money. We ended up having a conversation and he told me that he thinks life is really boring. I was like, well, why we had talked about his travels and the places he's been and things he's done and he was just like, well, I've kind of done it all like there's no, there's nothing nothing gets you off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's nothing left and he's just like I just kind of, you know, like live day to day and I was like, but you could do anything. He's like yeah, that's the problem. He's like I've, you know, I've been everywhere, I've wanted to go, you know. Know, I've been skydiving, I've done this, I've done that and I'm just bored. That's what I like. And I'm like that's so sad. Like you know me over here being like I would love to travel to this place and go here and do this and it's just like.
Speaker 1:But I guess, once you've done everything like and he seemed like kind of like solemn. Yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 2:yeah, you know Money could fix a lot of my problems. A lot, maybe not all A lot, but you're born into it or like you have always grown up with some type of privilege or luxury life, I guess it would be.
Speaker 1:It's very empty. Pretty, pretty boring, pretty just like yeah, he was just like yeah, you know, I'm just getting through the day I'm like getting through the day content. You're not content with anything yeah, everything was just like blasé for him, like great. I was like yeah, like it, like it bummed me out.
Speaker 2:I was like all right, well you have the ability to do anything yeah, anything and you choose to sit here and wallow like, yeah, you're like, you know, talk like we were just like it was just like you know, a party of some sort, and we were just like talking.
Speaker 1:I was like, all right, well, have a good night.
Speaker 2:I guess like god damn, it's very sad and I'm over here like oh my god okay like all right, what would I do with that money? Yeah, like I'm over here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm over here like planning what I could do. You know like, wow, you know, if I won the lottery, this is what I would do yeah, I mean, but how many you know? You always hear those stories about lottery winners where they go broke. They lose it all within you know however many years, because they don't know one how to manage money.
Speaker 2:They don't know how to manage money and then they just blow through it and it's like but I admit like I think even when I started making a significant amount of money, like I blew a lot of it and like, right, you don't, when you first get money, you don't know what it's like to have money and you think it'll just come that easy all the time?
Speaker 1:definitely so. I relate to that a little bit, but not as much as people who have that type of wealth. I think it's the young and dumb aspect of it where you're just like, oh, okay, yeah, Like you know, I remember when I would have like a good shift, you know waitressing I'd be like, oh, it's great.
Speaker 2:And then the next Then you just blow it all, because I'll make double tips tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like, oh, I'll just make it back tomorrow. And then it was like, oh no, tonight was crap, yeah. And I was like, all right, well, hold on. Yeah, they're you know having a good old time. Yes On, you know my dime. And then the next day I was like, oh no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, and people who have that money. But I just don't understand why they don't start businesses or something.
Speaker 1:I mean I guess they do, and then it's just boring or like why don't they want to change the world or do good Like okay.
Speaker 2:you're sitting here bored Like do world, or do good like okay you're sitting here bored like, do you contribute to society? I mean, you think of someone like elon musk. Oh, I don't like to think of him, but I don't either.
Speaker 1:I get very dry, yeah. But all that money in the world and you came out with a cyber truck, yeah, and spaceships that blow up, spaceships that blow up and, um, you could do so much with that, he's over here procreating an army Of children that hate him Of children? Yeah, he's not claiming half of them. He's breeding human shields.
Speaker 2:So sad. Not the human shield, I mean? Who uses their child like that? He's breeding human shields.
Speaker 1:He's going to make another one, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:How dare you? I mean that one chick, ashley St Clair, apparently just had his.
Speaker 1:Are we talking about the 13th one or the 14th one? The 14th?
Speaker 2:Isn't she?
Speaker 1:the 14th. I heard that he was claiming the 14th and the 13th was the. I don't know.
Speaker 2:The maybe We'll see. I don't know. I don't even know who would sleep with that alien looking weird skin sack.
Speaker 1:I think that's the real mystery of it all.
Speaker 2:I would sleep with Elon Musk. 14 times.
Speaker 1:I mean, I guess he's kind of like a meal ticket. Yeah, I guess, but not really I don't know.
Speaker 2:Grimes can't get a dollar out of him. She can't even get him to answer the phone.
Speaker 1:I don't think she has access to her child. I think she's kind of lost her kid.
Speaker 2:That's the problem with you. Know. Even non-famous people, non-wealthy people, like men love to knock women up and then give them nothing in return. That's true, you know. It's just like it's a trashy men thing that they do Trashy trashy.
Speaker 1:Oh, speaking of trashy. Okay, so I talked to you a little bit about this TikTok drama.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, sarah Kim, this tiktok drama.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, sarah kim I'm not really on tiktok, so she fills me on everything you could she okay, you are on it, but I'm not on it.
Speaker 2:I'm on ig.
Speaker 1:I could stay on ig for hours but no tiktok, you can stay on for hours, because it's just scroll, scroll, scroll what I do on instagram.
Speaker 2:Eventually, on instagram, you hit a limit, you hit your I do does not exist it exists.
Speaker 1:For me, tiktok is that's how I feel, but okay, who?
Speaker 2:is this woman.
Speaker 1:Okay, I didn't know about her. You know, like a week and a half ago, um, I started following her because actually no, I lie, I started leaning into her tiktok because people were talking about her, so I was interested. So I go on her page and her page looks like really cute. She makes um, she's korean, she makes kimchi with her mom and her dad and you know, she has really cute, wholesome content. Curious where this is headed. She has very cute, wholesome content. You know she's married. She lives in, um, the bay area.
Speaker 1:She has a very corporate, you know, nine to five, probably a little later than five, because it's, you know, corporate america, yeah, and um, you know I didn't really see what the issue was yeah and and then I started watching her get ready with me's and she does get ready with me from five to nine for her nine to five and I was like, okay, you know she has to get up early, you know she likes to do her, she's a content woman whose husband doesn't do anything yes, okay, so she's a content creator and has a full-time nine to five while her husband stays at home plays video games.
Speaker 2:Yes, I knew it.
Speaker 1:So I walk that. At first I was like okay, off of his head, hold on like he doesn't have a job.
Speaker 1:Then I was like, okay, wait, hold on, he is, he's still waiting in for this. He's um, he's like a pastor or a minister of some sort which you know I can appreciate if that's like your calling in life. You know religion's not really my forte, my thing. But if it's yours, you know it's the Libra in me. I'm being real, you know, mediator about it. Yeah, that's cool. And you know they don't really make a lot of money. There's not a lot of money in that field unless you're stealing from the church yeah, unless you're, you know, living that evangelical life you got going on.
Speaker 1:Unless you're joel ostein. Yes, but that doesn't seem to be him. So I was just like, okay, you know, he doesn't make that much money. Come to find out he does that but doesn't really make money. But they have a podcast together and it's one of those things where you're like maybe you shouldn't do a podcast together, because now people are pointing out the inconsistencies in the stories where he's talking about their finances and now she's pregnant. That's the other thing. So do they have kids already? No, okay. So this is her first pregnancy and people noticed in her get ready with me's she was kind of like not moving slowly, but you could tell she just wasn't like feeling her best. It was because she was in her first trimester, feeling nauseous. She said she had a really bad first trimester.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was fatigued.
Speaker 1:She was, you know, nauseous and just like struggling, and he, um, yeah, she gets up at five, goes to work, comes back from work and he's been at home all day playing video games. And then they were doing a podcast talking about their finances and she was talking about how she needs, you know, to feel secure in her.
Speaker 2:You know her dad and mom, is he also?
Speaker 1:asian. Yeah, I believe they're both very weird. Yeah, I mean, I I believe they are. I don't want to, you know, speculate, but I'm almost positive they are and that she said that her mom and dad both worked and she grew up very comfortably comfortably because they both worked very hard and they made sure that her and I believe she has a sibling, you know had money for college and that's how she lives her life. She, like went to school for accounting, so she's very numbers based.
Speaker 1:She is not only planning to have, you know, money for the month she was planning for retirement and a, you know, kids college tuition, whereas her husband's like, oh, yeah, you know, if we have rent next month, that's cool, and he's just very like laxadaisal, which is, if that's the way, you are fine, yeah, but you know that your partner isn't that way. But you know that your partner isn't that way and is asking for you to care and he just straight up doesn't. Then she was talking about their first night back home from their honeymoon, that he had bought himself a gaming PC like a whole system, and she was sleeping in the room and he was in that room on the PC playing video games until three in the morning, not caring that she couldn't get any sleep. So she went and moved to the couch. Wow, and he didn't notice until like 5 am that she had moved and she had to get up at like 5, 6 am to go to work.
Speaker 1:So it was just like showing how he really just doesn't care. Blatant disregard, yeah. And in they brought up his sermons there were like clips that were like found and put like posted on tiktok where he equated her to a dog, like he like equated her to like a pet and like property, and it's like that's not the way you talk about your significant other, who not only is she working a full-time job, she's also a content creator, which that takes a decent amount.
Speaker 1:That's a full-time job, so she's got basically two full-time jobs. She also cooks and cleans around the house. She spends time with her family, her it seems like her parents are very supportive of her, and there's a priority now she's pregnant and he's sitting at home playing video games and I hope she has in her sermons really disrespecting her.
Speaker 1:It's really sad but it's so common in certain marriages it is, it's just like and then people are like, did she make her podcast for as like a cry for help or like for people to make comments and be like babe, like that's not the way you should be treated in your marriage? Yeah, so that he could see them. But she was also talking about like her insecurities with their own relationship and regard it's mainly financial and like the fact that he's not really meeting her halfway even or giving her like the care of understanding why she's upset. Yeah, and he laughs throughout the whole thing, like it's a very like weird chuckle, like he really doesn't care. That's like it's odd Sociopath. Yeah, I don't like it, and I was like I was enjoying her content.
Speaker 2:I will go on TikTok for this now. Well, there we go, finally got her on.
Speaker 1:Goddamn TikTok Need the tea. Gotta get the TikTok need the tea. Yeah, it's interesting, but her, like her parents, are really cute. She has like cute content. I mean I love get ready with me videos on tiktok. Anyway, you know I'm over here like, please give me. I need the inspiration to get up and get ready too, like. So I'm over here watching her. But yeah, it was just very, like, kind of sad I felt bad I kind of felt bad for her.
Speaker 1:I feel bad for her like. So now I'm just like kind of waiting to see what happens.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's common that people will start either podcasts or they'll go on a reality show, and then all of like the inconsistencies not me starting my podcast, no but you know what I mean. Like they always make a joke that like don't real housewives, you know they'll be. Like be careful whenever you agree to like you know, be on a show like that, especially where it's gonna come out, yeah, where it's highlighting your marriage. And now you have a spotlight on glass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everyone's gonna be like, hey, everyone's got the opinion, everyone's gonna pick it apart and A lot of women escape these bad marriages in that process you know, so maybe this will be an escape for her. You know, Maybe it wasn't intentionally meant to be that for her, but hopefully maybe she'll muster the strength to see what everybody else sees.
Speaker 1:Because you cannot hide that, but also like she's pregnant now and it's like people are like on the like.
Speaker 2:I went to her comments. And I'm not like if I don't like something, I I've never left a comment on anything. Yeah, I mean maybe if I have like people's comments.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if I have, it's been like like something funny, like oh, I love this, or you know, but I'm not something positive. Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2:I don't leave dirty comments. I can't. If I don't like something, I just keep because if someone starts arguing with me back, you're not gonna. I'm not the type of person that will stop. That's why I always joke like god, I pray. Like going viral, everyone wants it. You know what I mean? I'm like cool if it went viral. Cool, but I'm the type of person like I'm the wrong person to go viral like I will argue with all 7 000 people.
Speaker 1:Well, what, if you like saw karen in the wild, like, if you were like, let's say you went to, like your local, like target, oh, and I went viral for, like, checking a karen or something, something.
Speaker 2:oh I'm, I'm fine with that, I don't care.
Speaker 1:Like well, no, I'm not even like if you went viral, like what if you saw a Karen oh?
Speaker 2:I'm not a bystander.
Speaker 1:I don't shut my mouth for anybody Like I really don't.
Speaker 2:I'm not the type of person that will let something go down in front of me and out right. I'm just not that type. I've never been that type. That's why, when I see those videos, I'm like why doesn't this shit ever happen in front of me? Like why doesn't this ever happen in front of me? Because all you ever see is people standing around doing nothing.
Speaker 1:Well, I also think it's kind of like um, I'm gonna get it, I'm gonna say mob mentality, but that's not correct where it's like they're sheep, every like everyone's watching it, thinking somebody else is going to say something, but then nobody says anything, because you're like, okay, she's going to say something, and then she's like no, he's going to say something. It becomes that domino effect where nothing gets said.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, I'm the type of person where people have been around me. They're like oh, this is it, oh shit.
Speaker 1:Oh shit.
Speaker 2:I can't stop her and like that I wish I could have an example at the top of my head, because I know I've done it plenty of times in my life. I'm not the type of person to let that shit slide. If I see anything that I will always serve my own justice. If I see an injustice happening, right Like point blank.
Speaker 2:Right, it's always how I've been. I think I have like a hyper vigilance from like just past trauma and stuff, that like I'm not someone who can sweep things under the rug. Maybe for myself I can sweep things down the rug, but not to other people, right?
Speaker 1:yeah, not to other people. I feel so bad for this girl. It makes me I know, yeah, and a pastor like that's the god wants you to treat your wife, that, yeah, people are like well, and it's just like love, honor, cherish, really. And I haven't listened to any of his other sermons. I mean I really didn't delve deep, that deep into it. I just kind of saw it and was like, oh, I hope people go to his church and like shit on the steps, like it was. It just seemed like if that's his sermon, that's weird for it to be his sermon, that and he's like acquitting his wife to, to a dog, a pet. I mean not that, like you know, your pet isn't like your family, but I mean that's still, that's not calling a woman a pet or referencing her to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was just like property, like like, no, yeah, any man who treats a woman, a pet or referencing her to a dog, yeah, it was just like property, like like, no, yeah, like any man who treats a woman as property, just castrate him yeah, it was just a very odd statement. Yeah, considering how much she does that's just wild.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I heard about this woman who like five to nine, nine to five, yes, and that her husband I didn't know he was a pastor, but that I didn't I because like nobody knew until they started their own podcast, like he only work on sundays.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I'm not sure, but like what's their podcast called? I don't know. I should have looked all this up before I started talking about it, just so I'm a little more informed.
Speaker 1:No, but yeah, I was just seeing clips of like. I went on her page and she was posting like her own clips. So it's's like she's posting. It's not like people are like pulling it from YouTube like themselves, like she's choosing these clips, yeah, so then it's like it kind of makes you think like Maybe she has a plan, maybe she's smarter than we're giving her credit for. I mean, I think she's smart anyway.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, you know, I mean we've all been, like We've all been there.
Speaker 1:It's stuck in that toxic cycle of just like oh my God, and everyone's looking at you like girl. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, why would you tolerate this? Yeah, so we've all been there. We don't judge, we don't judge, we just. We listen and we don't judge Lies.
Speaker 1:We're, you know hoping she gets you know the help or he finds the clarity which considering the name of this episode men are trash. Men don't grow. I don't think he's going to find the clarity. I don't think so, especially since she's talking about it in such a public forum and he's giggling.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The giggle is what got me where I was. Like I think that's just so obnoxious.
Speaker 2:And just downright, it was rude. It was rude Like the audacity was thick. I would smack the shit out of my husband, but any future husband of mine knows that I mean you would think that before they marry you they'd get a clue.
Speaker 1:Do you know how long they've been married? Not that long. I want to say that they got married within the past. I don't know, maybe two years Again. I should have researched this.
Speaker 2:Sorry, guys, but still we get the gist. It's the tale as old as time, to be honest, you know. Yeah, same thing, just a different way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we all have gone through yeah, it's just, we all go through, we all learn the same lessons.
Speaker 2:Just, you know, I'm like, yeah, I was like working my ass off and working two jobs and had a boyfriend living in my apartment. Just like living his life so leisurely, but like I was in my early 20s over here yeah I mean, I did the same thing I was. I had my own apartment since I was 18 and I had like was rotating relationships throughout.
Speaker 1:From 18 to 27 is when I really like stopped dating dating yeah and yeah, I had many people move into my apartment and I made them lunches for work and like yeah, if they were working, like I bought, like I was so happy to make them a lunch, they were, they had a job yeah like I bought the groceries though you know, like if we went out to the bar, like I paid the tab, like, but I'm like that's something that I did when I was younger.
Speaker 2:I would never now, you know so I'm glad I learned those lessons when I was younger. But some people have later development and maybe don't have consistent relationships when they're young. You know what I mean. Like some people don't date like that. I was like boy crazy, so I learned a lot of lessons when I was younger.
Speaker 1:So poor thing, you know, if she's learning this later in life and I think she's pretty young, like it's not like, you know, she's like 22. But I want 22, but I want to say maybe she's like 27, 28, so you know, I don't know. I wish the best for her. Yeah, hopefully it all works out. You know, definitely not like dogging on her, just dogging on him.
Speaker 2:And you know, hopefully, if I, if you're gonna call me a dog, then I'm gonna fucking bite you in the ass like one that would be the damn day someone will call me a dog.
Speaker 1:I've been called a lot of things. Dog ain't one of them no, no, you don't name.
Speaker 2:Call your spouse no, you don't.
Speaker 1:And if you get to the, if you get to that point, it's not really working out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't degrade your spouse, and especially on a platform like that. Why would you do that? Yeah like it just shows how much you really don't care and it's like if that's what's happening on camera.
Speaker 1:What the hell is happening?
Speaker 2:that's what I'm saying like people get so exposed and there's a spotlight on them, I'm like look, if they're so comfortable saying this with an audience, imagine what they say or do without an audience.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like what isn't being said on camera, because there's a lot being said, like it was. It was uncomfortable to watch and I go to tiktok for like my little serotonin boost and I was watching that and I got like kind of enthralled and I was just like this is not good for your psyche, girl turn it off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, honestly, that's why I only stick to instagram, because I can't handle instagram bums me out more sometimes.
Speaker 1:I mean I feel like they're both people are so mean on instagram. I love it. You're over here like I love the toxicity?
Speaker 2:yeah, I do. I don't know, I just love it, but I can't deal with the emotions that come with both apps. Do you know what I mean? Like I tiktok, when I used to mindlessly like doom scroll, I would get like depressed. You know like I would go from like watching happy reels and like crying for people like happy tears, and then I would be crying sad tears because of really sad things that are out going on in the world and then you just see mindless shit. Like get readies with me. You know just like is this what's really important? You know so like for me like I struggle too much with my mental health to take on all of those people's emotions.
Speaker 2:Everyone else, we're not supposed to consume other people's lives on that big of a scale? True, like we're not on that big of a scale. True, like we're not. I'm over here doom scrolling. We're not built to absorb all of that on that massive scale.
Speaker 2:We're not supposed to know this much about people you know, and so I already know I doom scroll too much on instagram like I can't have both evils I can't have both fair, that's just how I deal with it, because even I'll get depressed being on instagram too long. You know happy things, sad things, animal things, baby things, and then you like see people in like fake ish marriages. You know who are like in unhappy marriages and you're just like why do people put this shit on the internet? You know like sometimes my mind just cannot handle it that's true but I get very easily triggered and depressed, so I can't, that's fair, I can't, yeah all right, I'll stop.
Speaker 2:I'll stop bugging with tiktok then well, I'll see the tiktok to sammy.
Speaker 1:I just can't scroll on tiktok for too long I mean they send you the funny stuff I send you. I know I'll read your messages. I was sending you a lot of kitty inhaler videos oh my god, I will look at them.
Speaker 2:I will look at them. They were so cute though it's like, oh, I just chill on the instagram explorer page and then, once you click a reel, I just keep scrolling from that reel and I'm good, I'm just like okay, and then I gotta get the fuck off.
Speaker 2:I need to go touch grass I'm too emotional, like I swear like to. Our bills are deep and meaning mean people, but we're also, like deeply emotional people, so I can get very triggered, which is why, like my hyper vigilance when I see shit that's like that. It's because too many people don't you know what I mean. So just like something in me snaps so now I have to react. I'm very reactive, whether it's going to be sad tears or happy tears or violence, I'm going to react.
Speaker 1:I'm going to react. That's just who I am.
Speaker 2:That's just who I am. That's fair. It's my flaw and my strength yeah, so beware people, all right.
Speaker 1:So let's pivot away from the doom scrolling yes and then um. You're always like recommending, like movies, tv shows, documentaries.
Speaker 2:You've been pushing, pushing, southern charm oh, I love southern charm on me.
Speaker 1:Yes, I haven't started it, it's my new vander pump.
Speaker 2:Oh, the old vander pump was the best, it was the best, but what's crazy is like Southern Charm has been on almost just as long see. I like didn't really know about it until 12, right now you were yeah, so I only started watching it because, like how people got into Vanderpump Rules because of Scandival yes, I got into Southern Charm because of the Paige DeSorbo and Craig Conover Craig Conover breakup.
Speaker 1:I had no idea who these people were I mean, I know who page is just from like her podcast, like yeah, my friend is a huge.
Speaker 2:She went to go see giggly squad and I was like what the fuck is giggly squad? You know, because she doesn't even watch southern charm, okay, or she doesn't even watch summer house, yeah I was gonna say she doesn't watch either show, but still loves this podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:With no context on who these people were beforehand. Okay, because the other girl on Giggly Squad was part of Summer House too. She was original cast member, so I got into it and I was like, okay, I want to watch Southern Charm from the beginning and I did and I fucking loved it. They're just this like messy and going through. You know the trials and errors of like growing up and trying to balance work life and partying and friendship and romance and relationships. So I fucking loved it and all those people. It's in the south, so it's so different it's charleston, right, yeah.
Speaker 1:South carolina, yes, and I want to go there. I was gonna say you, I was like fixated on moving there. You said you like sent me, you're like I found my house and I'm like what, if I had your house, I have money, like that I would definitely buy a house there. I just think it's so cute.
Speaker 2:But I like the south egg because it reminds me of, you know, the haunted mansion, like, okay, all those style of houses new orleans yeah, but like it's there, the main woman in there, patricia, she has a house that looks just like that, with, like the big pillars and all that the columns.
Speaker 1:Isn't it like kind of like plantation?
Speaker 2:yes, but some of them and that's what's crazy is it goes through the history and like okay, so they don't like gloss over.
Speaker 1:No, they don't gloss over anything. Okay, so they're at least they're very self-aware about it.
Speaker 2:Okay, they're very self-aware about we're not doing where their family lively, pretending she didn't have a wedding like they're very aware of where their family money came from and the history of it, and they call each other out, you know, okay, and even when, like we're in the pandemic and like you know, black lives matter became a movement, like they tore down all those statues in charleston that you know represented racism and all these things so, and they were all like in in support of that, okay, I mean, and they weren't just showboating for the show, you know, they all agreed like this is old shit, like you know what I mean, like this is might be how our family's got the money, but you know we don't stand for that anymore yeah, so I really like the diversity of the group and how well they respond to things that are happening in real life and the honesty you know,
Speaker 2:what I mean, they don't smooth over anything. So I really liked it and I like history, so I like that it goes back into the history and like into those plantations and most of them, literally their families, have the ravenel bridge named. It's called the ravenel bridge because of thomas ravenel and, like his family way back in the day and I don't know who, that is well, one of the white lotus characters, the guy, it's the one with oh yeah, we should circle back on that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we will.
Speaker 2:What's his name? And, uh, the actor's name, jason isaac. Jason isaac based his character off of Thomas Ravennault in Southern Charm. He openly says he used that role as inspiration for his role. Okay, so yeah, maybe you'll like Southern Charm now, because they kind of based some of their characters off it. The writers of White Lotus.
Speaker 1:We should talk about that.
Speaker 2:And their scandal.
Speaker 1:We didn't watch the whole episode, no, we just watched the clip. Yeah, so from circle back from last episode, real quick. We were talking about the hear me outs. Yes, am I a creepo for only wanting to watch White Lotus just to see lucius mouthways wand? Um, so we, we went and we, we paused it. We for science, for science, for science. We went back and we looked at it and it looked real. We think it looks real, but also like it look. If you're part of like the makeup department, you better make it look real. Yeah, my only is so, okay. Then we googled it. Supposedly it's a prosthetic, yes, boo, but then I do think it might be a prosthetic because supposedly british european, they are uncircumcised and that was a brit, right? He, yeah, so, and he that was a circumcised penis.
Speaker 2:That's very true they did a very good job on that prosthetic. That was a beautiful penis clap for the cock.
Speaker 1:Clap for the cock so you know, bravo to makeup department because apparently it was prosthetic. Yeah, boo for us, because we were just trying to get a fucking look. I'm just trying to creep. Yeah, all I we can create, all I'm trying to do a fucking look, I'm just trying to creep.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all I'm trying to do is creep. It's for entertainment value, it's okay. It's not like we're pulling men's pants down in public saying let me see your dick. No, not today.
Speaker 1:Not right now. I mean, I'm tired, it's five o'clock, it's five o'clock.
Speaker 2:Cheers, cheers, there we go yeah, so, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that was our circle back. We did our homework, we we looked um yeah, we looked, we didn't touch we paused it?
Speaker 2:we um? Yes. Thomas ravenel's character yes, or he was inspired by thomas yeah, oh yeah, that's how we got there. Yeah, and thomas ravenel his family goes way back in charleston and the ravenel bridge which, like the main bridge in South Charleston, Huge it's named after him and his family and I'm like that's insane, Even um.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine, like, if you're just like walking down like Wilshire Boulevard and you're like, oh, but that's how I felt about the Hammers them?
Speaker 2:like everyone, like I, get so intrigued by those like staple families, who have their names on like buildings, but now like look what they turn into.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I know, I mean look you and I got our own problems. I know we don't need these. Yeah, oh, thomas ravenel spirals on the show I love a good spiral.
Speaker 2:Yes, you're gonna love it like toxic and I'm talking like, okay, like drug problem political like scandal I love it.
Speaker 1:I love mama drama like so it's he. He's a gremlin. Yeah, honestly, let's get him on the podcast. I'll watch your show. Oh, come on.
Speaker 2:He's so thirsty, he'll be there yeah, and they all have like those thick southern accents. I'm a sucker for an accent. Yeah, he owns or he bought a plantation like I don't love that yeah, you know what I mean. Like there's all these things, um. So yeah, I like that the show dives into a lot of history.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, not you being a history buff, I love history. On your Bravo, I know.
Speaker 2:I love history because I love digging up the past. So, yeah, you need to watch the show, you'll get into it.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:I'm barely getting into the episodes that get into Craig and Paige more. Oh yeah, the original reason why you watched it the original reason why I watched it. Those episodes are barely airing, so you're seeing the downfall of their relationship happen. Now they're already broken up and now you're seeing what led to the breakup. And I started Summer House to watch her background, because they're both featured on each other's shows, like Crossover, but you still have to watch individual show.
Speaker 2:It's like so much homework, like I have to watch her show and I have to watch his show and then I have to. You're like it's so much work it is. This is a full-time job. Oh my god, I'm a historian, okay yeah there's actually an account called, like, the bravo historian, and I'm so mad that should have been me oh, you missed your calling.
Speaker 1:I know, maybe you can be like a yeah.
Speaker 2:I need to be featured as a guest. There you go.
Speaker 1:I need to hit them up. There you go. Yeah, all right. Do you have any other recommendations? Because right now my boyfriend and I were binging just Law Order SVU on Peacock, because there's 24 seasons to go through and we're on season 16. That sounds like some Grey's Anatomy shit we did that too.
Speaker 2:Don't worry, I can't do. I try to watch the first episode of Grey's Anatomy. You've never watched Grey's.
Speaker 1:Anatomy. So you don't understand the heartbreak. No, how dare you?
Speaker 2:you know I told you I don't watch shows that everybody else watches.
Speaker 1:Like I hate the hype about you're over here bitching at me to watch Southern Charm, but that's because it's relevant and their plantation history.
Speaker 2:But that's because it's relevant to the drama that's happening now. Otherwise I never would have cared. It has to be like something that like reels me in about it, like I would watch Grey's Anatomy if, like, some scandal came out about like the actor on it.
Speaker 1:Now, I mean, there used to be scandal candle, did we get on this? Oh, we're talking about shows. Shows, yeah, shows, um yeah do you have shows or like movies. Okay, you, you had strong opinions about anora and um the last show, last show girl, yes, the last show girl.
Speaker 2:I watched it and I thought it did a good job at portraying women who just can never seem to know when their time is up so, so it's just they're like prolonging the inevitable. Prolonging the inevitable and like Just the way it. She pissed me off the way that Pam Anderson's character Like chose that over, like being a parent. So to speak.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean and I don't. The priorities are screwed. Yeah, you know the priorities were screwed. And she those characters that you're supposed to hate. Like you hate her in the movie, like I thought it was going to be like a glamorous movie portraying like good parts of showgirls, and like you don't even see the show until the end of the movie. Oh, you were like waiting for it, it's all behind the scenes we're like are we going to see the show?
Speaker 1:at any time, so areitty gritty, like the very unglamorous side of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I liked it because Brenda Song is in it. Okay, yes, and I love seeing her in all these new little different roles. You know she's in that new show I started watching on Netflix. Also good recommendation the basketball series. What's it called? The jump jump off, jump start, jump, something. I don't know. It's a basketball themed title. Title I can't remember because I'm not basketball savvy, but it's um kate hudson.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, yeah, I know what you're talking about, I just don't know the name of it jump off, the tip off something kate hudson and her really good dynamic duo.
Speaker 2:I love that show and it's about a woman being in charge, a woman ceo so I love to see that happen, like she got put in charge as opposed to her brothers, and they're trying to like take that position from her right yeah, so it's a good show, um, but yeah, and last show, girl, I feel like just every sex worker type movie is just like it hits the mark because it's always a male director, you know what I mean and I just feel like it's always portrayed through the male gaze, the male opinion, no matter how many sex workers that you interview or involve in your sets or have on film or use as consultants, like it's just never good enough for me, like I'm never gonna like it until it's through the eyes of a woman, like completely through the eyes of a woman you know With who has a history you know what I mean which is just so hard to do.
Speaker 2:You know, Because it's not like we're all becoming filmmakers. You know, true, it's not like we're doing that, so it would be on us to do it, you know, for ourselves. But yeah, I didn't really care for the last showgirl because it just made you hate her, okay.
Speaker 1:And I don't want to.
Speaker 2:You don't want to hate her, I wanted to like the showgirl, you know I wanted to like see something good about it and it really just portrays the negative, you know, yeah. So I was like, okay, it was a good watch. I liked like the imagery. The imagery is beautiful, all the glam, the feathers, you know like the dressing room, like that stuff's very real. But I'm like, why do they always have to portray it so negatively, like it's all not negative, you know. So there's some good to it. Come on, okay. And then Anora, I like the movie. I just wish it ended differently. Okay, end it differently.
Speaker 1:Okay, it should have ended, I still haven't seen it. Okay, well then I won't. I mean, you can ruin it for me yeah well, I'm that person who, if I haven't seen it, I'm gonna google it, because I want to know if it's very much, in my opinion, a baby stripper take on sex work because no vet would have fallen for that shit.
Speaker 2:Okay, no vet would have fallen for that shit because you say or would have secured more before it all blew up? Do? You know what I mean like she literally like fell in it for love and I'm like so she pretty womaned it.
Speaker 1:Yes, you never kiss on the mouth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean like she pretty womaned it and like they got married or whatever. But he's like I don't.
Speaker 1:I want to know how old she's supposed to be in the movie, like they never they never really say how old she's supposed to be but so we give so, like if you were to say you, she knows what she's like.
Speaker 2:21 yeah, like she dances well in the club, like she learned, like I think she portrays us very well in the club. It was very well taught to her. I can tell and I follow the dancer who taught her how to dance for that movie, like I fall. I follow the girls who were used as consultants on that movie. But, yeah, I don't like how it ended because she basically thought she was getting her Cinderella story and it's never a cinderella story exactly.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Life ain't cinderella, yeah like she thought she was like, you know, getting out the club. You know this is gonna be the end her shot. She was rich. She met this rich guy and it's never what it seems. You know what I mean. Yeah, so, but that is the whole point of the movie. It's never what it seems, you know. But she broke character for me. You know what I mean. Like she stopped playing that role for him. You know, even in the marriage I would have still had that work mentality, like, okay, she completely like threw it all out the window and like stopped playing the game for herself and was just like I'm gonna be a normal person now. I would have liked it if she was like using the marriage as like part of the plot. Still, do you know what I mean? Okay, like, like I would you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So why don't you just like write your own movie? I probably should well like, so I have my own.
Speaker 2:I use my journals a lot like I have written in every journal pretty much every time after I've gotten home from work or seeing a client written down my thoughts. Oh yeah, we should say that you are an ex. I'm a retired stripper, sex worker yes I have a lot.
Speaker 1:I don't think we discussed that. We're just over here. We're over here yapping. We're expecting you to catch up and jump right into the story.
Speaker 2:That's why I have such strong opinions? Because I've lived it you know, and been through the ups and downs, the good and the bad, yeah, so I have thought about making like a screenplay with my own script script because of I could literally just use my journals you know what I mean as the jump off point. But then I'm like do I want to expose myself? Like I mean, you don't have to say it's you? I know I already thought about just dr susan pen pal or not.
Speaker 1:Pen pal, that's. That's not right. Me and my friend, I can't get a goddamn phrase correct lately. I the last episode I called nostradamus god, you only get a clue.
Speaker 2:One thing about anora was a baby stripper vibe. So that's fine. But do we need a vet vibe, you know? But then they did do that with hustlers and that was corny as fuck. I did not like. I did not like hustlers into my opinion. I'm sorry, jlo was too old to play that stripper you know what?
Speaker 1:I just really don't like jlo. I don't like like her either.
Speaker 2:I'm so sorry. Back to Nora. She basically had to annul the marriage. His family wasn't happy about it, obviously Spoilers. She didn't ask any questions. She didn't ask any questions, she just went in blindly, which no sex worker would do, in my opinion. I just don't.
Speaker 1:There was no question. I feel like when does your money come from? No normal person would do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was just like in fucking La La Land, which I feel like made us look like stupid, Like made us look like dummies and I'm just like we sex workers are some of the smartest fucking people I've ever known. I mean, you have to be. Savvy business women, you gotta you know, you gotta know yeah and I was just like that's the correct, saying right, yes, jeez man, quick on your feet, think on your toes. Yeah, I'm questioning everything I'm saying today you got this.
Speaker 2:Today's been a day it should have ended with her back at the club because she like went to the club and was, like I'm out of here, like I'm going back to my mansion like gloating. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Jealousy's a disease she walks right back in no, that's what should have been the ending.
Speaker 2:You know, what I mean was that walk of shame back in and everyone being like, ha, you thought, cause, that's how we all are. When someone thinks they're leaving the industry bitch, you'll be right back here like sadly, sadly. I've been through it, I've seen it happen to other girls like be fucking realistic yeah the fact that the consulting girls were just like nah. She should have been back at the club like I would have been like this has to end, she has to end back at the club with everyone, just but it ends like happily ever after she's cinderella it ends.
Speaker 2:It ends bad, it ends her. It ends with a sex scene with her basically giving herself to someone because her like low self-worth, so to speak oh yeah, that's not the way. I thought she pity, she pity fuck someone at the end of the movie who, like she thinks helped her, so she like owed it to him. Oh gross, and I was like yeah, and I was like that's all.
Speaker 1:And she like, starts crying thanks for ruining it for me, because now I don't want to see it, I know, but you still gotta watch it you still have to watch it do I though yes, you, because I want to know what you think, because I really think it's more of a baby stripper vibe.
Speaker 2:A vet would never A vet would be like. I want this up front, and where is your money coming from?
Speaker 1:When it goes on streaming services, it is. It's on Disney Plus. Damn it. I was hoping it wasn't.
Speaker 2:It's on Disney Plus, you're watching.
Speaker 1:I'm going to force you to watch Wicked. How about that Fine Deal? Cool, look, we're back to where Wicked vibes right are. Oh, we are. Yeah, it's funny. I grabbed this sweater because I thought it had Slytherin vibes and we were going to do our circle back about Lucius's.
Speaker 2:What's his name? I keep forgetting his name Jason Isaac. Jason Isaac yeah, we were going to talk about his wand.
Speaker 1:But I saw it was this tweet where not that I have Twitter, I saw it on TikTok, but that's like my new source, but it was. Somebody was saying oh, um, name a movie where the lead actor ruined it for you and JK Rowling retweeted it and said three guesses, lol, talking about daniel radcliffe, rupert grint and emma watson, harry ron and hermione, because they disagreed with her on her being transphobic. I'm like, excuse you lady, yeah, you're a billionaire. Yeah, because of, not because of them fine, you wrote it, whatever but like they brought your magic to know what?
Speaker 1:when you think of harry potter, you don't think of jk rowling.
Speaker 2:You think of.
Speaker 1:You think of yeah, you think of. They spent their entire their childhood, their entire childhood, part of their adulthood and no matter what they do, they're all characters. Whenever you see daniel radcliffe in like a movie or tv show, you're like that's harry potter. Yeah, I don't think you're not like a stan. Yeah, when I watched beauty and the beast, the live action one, I wasn't like, hey, bell, hermione, hermione, but yeah, it's like they gave like you know they're, they gave their lives for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just gonna like, not that they didn't benefit from it, but it's also like your views respect your views.
Speaker 2:Shit, your views are trash. Yeah, totally trash, I agree. I'm glad I didn't read the books. I just watched the movie.
Speaker 1:Oh, I have all the books on my shelf. Did you see all?
Speaker 2:that I was like oh dear God, we got a Harry Potter one.
Speaker 1:I love Harry Potter. I mean, I haven't read them in so long. I definitely read. I don't know if I did a good British accent right there, probably not. That was good. Yeah, no, but this would be my Slytherin because I did the whole Pottermore quiz thing. Did you ever do that?
Speaker 2:I'm a Slytherin, that's how I found out I was.
Speaker 1:I mean, I was always like I'm a Gryffindor, because I would have thought you were a Gryffindor because you're a. Leo right, but yeah, no, I took the quiz and all that. It tells you this was like way back in, like.
Speaker 2:I don't know 2011,.
Speaker 1:Back when I graduated high school in ye yonder years, ye olde days, long time ago, we took the Pottermore quiz and yeah, it tells you like your house.
Speaker 2:I want the Sort hat lego you and your legos man.
Speaker 1:You love a damn lego, I love a lego. That's what I sent you on tiktok. I sent you some lego stuff too. Okay, god me over here. You're over here pushing southern trauma. I'm just trying to. I'm just asking you to serotonin boost me and talk about goddamn fucking t.
Speaker 2:I will get on TikTok every day, fine.
Speaker 1:We're both going to have no time during the day now You're going to be overtaken. I'm going to be binging this damn show.
Speaker 2:As you should. I watched fucking 10 seasons in like a week.
Speaker 1:You did. You watched that fast because you were like, hey, like I'm almost caught up, and I was like what just?
Speaker 2:happened Like you just talked about it it's not good though.
Speaker 1:It's like vanderpump.
Speaker 2:You have to keep going, you're the one who got me like hooked on vanderpump, though, so trust me when I say this vanderpump was wild. It was wild.
Speaker 1:All right. So we're going to talk. We're talking about movies, tv shows. Okay, do you have like a top five like favorite movie scarface? No, top five, not top one. That's your top one. Oh god, you're that person.
Speaker 2:No, number one is scarface, okay. Number two nightmare for christmas uh, old school okay. I fucking love it. I can never get tired of that movie all right I can quote that movie all day, old school, oh man, last two spots, last two spots. They're coveted. I know I'm gonna do one more animated one. Okay, go, I love coco oh coco, oh yeah I love.
Speaker 1:I thought you said yoko.
Speaker 2:I was like I don't know what that is coco yes, that one speaks to me and I like it because it goes to my mexican heritage and I love it. It makes me feel like I have a family, oh god, I know. And then another like some more serious movie, probably casino that's on my top five.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I fucking love that movie. I was like I knew it was gonna be like another, like mobster, like okay based type movie, for that's for sure in my top five. Yeah, for sure, casino is in my top five, yeah what's your top? Five um number one, I don't know. Okay, I can't see, I can't give you my top number one, I can give you five, and even then I'm like random order, no particular, yeah, even then I'm like, I like I'm probably missing one.
Speaker 1:I love casino, so that would be one. We're kind of going with the southern charm thing I love gone with the wind. I've never seen it. It's long, you gotta really commit to it, but it's like that old hollywood, like time you like the sound of music. No, okay, is that? Is that old hollywood like I think you know, vivian lee who, vivian lay who plays scarlet, she is just like so beautiful and I just love her so much and it's just like the whole story.
Speaker 1:It's like real, real fucked up, but I love that movie again. It's a time it's a time commitment. Um, titanic, that's a good one. My other time commitment movie, that. But if I'm like flipping through the channels and it's on, oh, I always oh, I'll watch it.
Speaker 2:I always leave it there and you know, I the original hot girl.
Speaker 1:I saw this, this like meme where they were like all titanic is, is just this girl, you know, talking telling a story about how she got like really good dick on a cruise. I'm like well, good for her. Um, a star is born. You don't like that movie I love that movie. It makes me cry tears and, um, my last one so hard, huh, okay. So I'm toying between two and I feel like I'm not even going to be happy with either of those answers, which is mean girls okay, that's iconic or wolf of wall street love just because look, I love leonardo dicaprio.
Speaker 1:I don't I stopped liking him he was. He stopped being my number one crush when I aged out of his fucking bracket, because how dare you say not that he ever said it to me? I'm acting like he's had a conversation.
Speaker 2:How dare you?
Speaker 1:say this to me. How dare you tell me? Yeah, you know, as soon as I became too old for him. I just thought that was ridiculous. Especially you know, I have an affinity. You know I love my older men, that's. You know. If you're not older than me, I'm really not interested no, the older the better.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you're not 40 plus, I don't want you. No, to be quite honest I don't want to date someone my own age. I can barely deal with myself. I'm good I hate myself.
Speaker 1:You think I want to deal with the male version of me.
Speaker 2:God wait, I want to change my last one okay, since I already have a gangsta one just came to me. I love the movie Midnight in Paris. I don't know if you've ever seen it, but it's amazing. No, but I watched it. Is that with um, owen Wilson and Rachel McAdams? Never mind. Yeah, owen Wilson and Rachel McAdams, but the only thing I hate about it is it's a Woody Allen movie I hate that. I love that movie you know I won't support and go to the box office and watch any of his other movies.
Speaker 1:You know but if it's on the streaming service, it's free.
Speaker 2:I'll watch it. Um, yeah, I loved midnight in paris. This would maybe not made me fall in love with paris. I fell in love with paris the first time I went there but then the second time I went back. I watched that movie before I went there and I was just like I love it, I love it, I love it and midnight in paris has history involved in it.
Speaker 2:Like he travels back in time into older parts of paris and like meets ernest hemingway and salvador dolly and like okay, um, a bunch of other famous writers and stuff like that see, I also love the notebook we could go on forever. I love that. I love that movie.
Speaker 1:You're a bird, I'm a bird you know, I really think that's why I have a weird expectation, or not anymore. I'm sobered up. I used to have this weird expectation of love because I'm like. He wrote her every day for a year. I wrote you 365 letters and I'm over here every day for a year and I'm over here. Yeah, I'm like you couldn't even text me back. Yo like what happened? He built her a goddamn house. Where's my goddamn house where?
Speaker 2:is my goddamn house. Men used to go to war.
Speaker 1:Men used to build things they used to go to war and write yeah, you're telling me you go to work and you can't text me back. I'm sorry, I'm generalizing here.
Speaker 2:Yes, either way. No, come on, men, don't do go the distance anymore that's the name of the episode.
Speaker 1:Men are trash.
Speaker 2:Yes they are well. I've yet to meet a man that has like the full package and is everything he should be I mean, I think that's unrealistic, because are we the full? Package? No, but I think there's a certain thing that a man should be. I mean, I think that's unrealistic, because are we the full package? No, but I think there's a certain thing that a man should be.
Speaker 1:You're supposed to be delusional and say yes, I am the full package. See, I just want someone to go to war and write me yeah, and then die and leave me the property that's dark marriage just didn't last long back then because husbands died.
Speaker 2:Oh no, die, die, die my darling, die my darling. Well, that is our episode.
Speaker 1:It is men are trash and they used to die young cholera. Come back, take these men out, we're at polio.
Speaker 2:We already went through a plague.
Speaker 1:We don't need a new one.
Speaker 2:Well, we would like a plague that specifically only affects men but the stupid men, not all men. You hate men I didn't say that. I didn't say that you hate. I won't say anything. You hate everyone. Yeah, I hate everyone equally. Okay, I will love everyone equally if you give the right opportunity to I love hard, and I hate hard per yay, I finished my you have a time.
Speaker 1:I have this the iddiest. I think it was all soda water at that point. That's fine, that's good. I don't think I need anymore. No, we're good cut off. I'm cut off for my one, all right, so where can we find you?
Speaker 2:at slut. Who won't fuckyou on Instagram and TikTok All? One word, even though she's not on TikTok that often, but you can find me there.
Speaker 1:Make me go on TikTok, give me reasons to Please Give her a reason to I'm trying to send her so many things.
Speaker 2:Yes, get slide in my DMs. Yes, what are they called on Instagram? Call him a dm because a tiktok dm, I don't know, I'm a millennial and apparently I'm chuggy. What does?
Speaker 1:that mean you're lame, you're who says that word, the gen z's fuck gen z. I don't know. Fuck you, gen. I feel sad. Let's end on a sad note also. Do you have any socials for your?
Speaker 2:new podcast. Yes, the new podcast is at man our trash podcast. Yes, man our trash podcast, full word.
Speaker 1:Yes, all right come see me there. Yeah, we know where to find you all our shit. And then you can find me at uh, emily to gremlin pod on tiktok and instagram. And then make sure to write me emily to gremlin pod at gmailcom. Send in your gremlin stories. I need tell us. I need to feel better about myself by hearing you know your crazy ass downfalls no, sir, join us, make us feel better make us feel better.
Speaker 2:I can't wait to listen to her previous or her next episodes and hear your guys's stories.
Speaker 1:So yes, let it rip and you know what she'll come back on, and we'll talk more gremlin stories as well, because we have infinite. We got more. Actually, there's one I want to talk to you about at one point um, not my birthday, yeah, your birthday, I knew it.
Speaker 2:I was gonna bring that. We'll save that.
Speaker 1:That's a whole we'll save it her birthday was wild.
Speaker 2:Yeah. 29th birthday yeah she.
Speaker 1:She left her third, her 20s, with a bang. That was a good one. All right, that's a good one. That's the episode. We was a good one. That's the episode we're out Cheers, cheers.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me again.
Speaker 1:Of course. Thank you for coming back Anytime Toodles. Good night.