Emily to Gremily
A podcast about the stories that start out normal and spiral into something unforgettable. Hosted by Emily Hogan, Emily to Gremily blends humor, honesty, and a touch of chaos through solo episodes and guest features. Expect cocktails, unfiltered “gremlin" stories, pop culture hot takes, and internet obsessions.
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Emily to Gremily
Yeah I’m Sleeping With My Boss
When passion meets purpose, beautiful transitions happen. Lin takes us on her fascinating journey from the glamorous world of car modeling to finding deeper fulfillment advocating for accident victims alongside her partner's personal injury law practice.
Lin's story begins unlike many in the car modeling industry, without the typical introduction through male family members, she forged her own path through genuine automotive passion. "I finessed my way into getting paid," she laughs, describing how she transformed her love for cars into a modeling career that spanned nearly eight years. While others used car modeling as a stepping stone to different careers, Lin remained because she truly loved the vehicles themselves.
The conversation takes unexpected turns through relationship territory, as Lin shares how meeting her partner at a car show led to both romantic and professional evolution. Her candid reflections on transitioning away from modeling reveal the challenges of identity shifts when leaving a high-visibility career. "I went from doing all these fun things to washing dishes and doing laundry," she admits, before explaining how helping accident victims through her partner's law practice has given her new purpose.
We also tackle thorny friendship dilemmas, including what to do when a friend confides about cheating on their spouse. Lin's perspective on loyalty and discretion offers valuable insights: "Friendship means that no matter what you do, I'm there... but sometimes ignorance is bliss."
Whether you're contemplating a career change, navigating complex friendships, or simply curious about the behind-the-scenes of car modeling, Lin's authentic storytelling and thoughtful reflections make this episode both entertaining and enlightening.
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cheers, cheers. We have a lemon drop and I'm here with lynn. How are you, my love? Hi, I'm good, I am really good. Yeah, we've been sipping on this lemon drop because we remade it because it was too full, so you know we've been sippings. Have you been my?
Speaker 2:love. I have been good Truly. I feel like I can finally say I have been good, so yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's always a journey, right? Yes, yes absolutely. Mental health is um a work in progress, always yes, yes. So what's been new with you?
Speaker 2:um nothing much. I mean um earlier we were joking about how you know, once you're old and settled, there's not a whole lot of fun stuff right, we don't have too many. I don't think I have. Yeah, there's not much yeah I feel the same way.
Speaker 1:I just I do this and then I talk to peoples and that's it yeah, well, thank you for having me. Yeah, I'm so happy you agreed. I thought maybe you were going to be too busy and I was like she's not gonna have time to hang out with me and do this podcast, but no I love to have jesus, but, uh, I love to support you.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I am, yeah, I always make time.
Speaker 1:So we've been friends for what? How many years long time?
Speaker 2:uh, oh my, you know it's funny because I feel like I always count before covid and after covid. Yes, it's like so bc ad, so like I know right, so like maybe three years before covid, so like 2017?
Speaker 1:yes, yeah, maybe a little before it's so crazy, like if you maybe a little before, but my gosh, it's like yeah, it's been a long time.
Speaker 2:2017, that sounds like a long time. It's eight years. I mean it is a long time, but it just sounds like way too long.
Speaker 1:I feel like we're not old enough to be friends for eight years yes exactly okay, exactly exactly like I'm still 23, what are you talking? About I'm still 27. Oh, I made myself younger yeah, I was gonna say perfect. Yay, yes, because I am the baby of the group, I was gonna say no, you're not. We celebrate your birthday first, I know it's okay, you're gonna be 24 again.
Speaker 2:It's okay. I tell everybody whatever age you want. Yeah, you can be that again. So yeah, next year I'm gonna be 27 again you know what really bugs me?
Speaker 1:so my boyfriend, he keeps saying that he's 33 you're not, by the way, just want to let you know okay, well, hold on the point.
Speaker 2:The the thing, though, is like, when you choose an age, you also have to look, and go by it.
Speaker 1:Oh no, he's about to have issue with you. I was gonna say he's gonna with me after this one no, he says he's 33, and at first well, 33 for like the fifth time for the fifth we're talking about. We're like fucking 20 plus years later. No, but I'm like dude, the closer I get to 33, the closer I am to punching you when you say you're 33, right, you can't say you're 33, because then you're gonna be 33, then yeah, when I'm gonna be older than you, right over my dead body, yeah which it might be over his dead body if he keeps saying it I swear he's bugging the crap out of me with it, you're not 33 just want to let you know more like 37, should we give him 37?
Speaker 1:I don't even want to give him that kind of grace, because he's just been bugging me with it.
Speaker 2:That's funny.
Speaker 1:He's been saying 33. We've been together for what? Almost seven years. Is it seven years? Yeah, back then, like when I was, you know, 25, I was like, oh, that's funny. And now I'm about to be 32 and I'm like it's not funny anymore yeah.
Speaker 1:Seven years, yeah, seven years you and I've been friends for eight years and you've been together with him for seven yeah, I almost feel like you guys, or like I've knew you guys longer than that I know that's why I was all like, hmm, like I was, yeah, I was like I feel like the timing's off, but yeah, because I remember when we started like hooking up that I was gonna say.
Speaker 2:Were you guys hooking up like way before the announcement? I know I was the last yeah, probably to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, no, you weren't like the last one, I was like kind of like I don't know, we were just trying to keep it a secret. Because we were trying to keep it a secret, yeah, and then, yeah, when people started finding out, I was like kind of denying it, being like I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:That's so funny because if you didn't tell me like I feel, like I've never would have known.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you're not, but you're also not like I mean, obviously I was oblivious, but but you're not a nosy nelly I was gonna say it's like I obviously care for you, right, like your friendship, but like I'm not like all about like you're not like prying into people's business, like unlike me no, I, I swear I remember right now, like the day you told me, because you know what I think it's the same day about the my gremlin story, I think oh, was it.
Speaker 1:Oh wait, it is because we went back to my house because I was going to vegas that day and we were like out partying like super late and I was like dude, I got to go to vegas in like two hours I don't remember that part, but I do remember.
Speaker 2:Maybe we'll say we still feel like so I'm gonna spoil my gremlin story. Okay, yeah, but yeah, I, I think I remember. Now you told me that day and I was like I was like too much is happening, like what is this?
Speaker 1:like it's not a good time to be breaking this kind of news yeah, but it was like yeah, because our anniversary is june 21st, 22, 22nd, I don't know, I always forget the date.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, it's one of those days Under eight years.
Speaker 1:Girl yeah, but it's one of those days 21st or 22nd, but yeah, and then that happened in like December the Vegas. When we went to Vegas, it was like December.
Speaker 2:Okay, I don't remember month, I just yeah, it was December, I remember.
Speaker 1:December. I remember I'm like a poet, I'm a poet and I don't even know it, but yeah that was. Yeah, so yeah, I guess you were the last to know.
Speaker 2:I want yeah. Why did you know what? Let's get intoing. I'm going to start like bringing up things from the past. Why did you tell me last?
Speaker 1:I didn't mean to tell you last. I thought you knew, actually, hold on. I did kind of tell you at one point and then it was like in passing conversation I can't say how I told you on here, because then I'm like blowing up our spot, yeah. But then, yeah, I told you and you were like, oh okay. And yeah, but then, yeah, I told you and you were like oh, okay, and then that was it.
Speaker 1:Oh man, I'm sorry, I was like really oblivious, I'm gonna cut it here, okay, yeah, so now I okay, so we're back from a break. I told her what happened and then she was like, oh, okay, yeah so yeah so I guess I wasn't the last. No, she just um didn't care enough to retain the information.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry heart brain trauma.
Speaker 1:I could only focus on one thing at a time, and that was just like not important right now.
Speaker 2:What else is happening? Okay, great, yeah, not important enough.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so technically, you weren't the last to know.
Speaker 2:I don't know who would be the last to know. Okay, I'm glad we cleared that up, yeah.
Speaker 1:I still I love you. I would, of course, would tell you. I told you in a panic, but I told you.
Speaker 2:I do remember that. I didn't want to know, though. Yeah, Because I remember you were like I have to tell you something, and I don't know why I feel like am I going to?
Speaker 1:and I'm like no, I rather like seriously. I'd rather not know. You'd rather be in the dark than know a secret. See, I'm the opposite.
Speaker 2:I want to know everybody's business at all times I feel like I take it too serious like for example, if it comes to like, I guess, jail stuff or whatever, like you know, like what do you think I was gonna tell you I committed a crime? No, I'm just saying like I feel like it's those years where like, let's say, like my husband and my boyfriend's like a criminal, and I'm like I almost rather not know Because what if they do like a, like a polytest, and then like how?
Speaker 1:can I lie so you could never be like a mob wife, I mean A girl. You better get with it, you and your fur coats, better fucking I know right with it.
Speaker 2:It depends. I feel like it's different, because when you're married and you're not talking about like the prison stuff, like if you're married you technically like they can, um, then you can know stuff. But I guess yeah we have to be married, otherwise don't. I don't want to know. You're like bitch. Put the ring on it, yeah, because then you know you, I can't be against, you, can't be against your husband.
Speaker 1:This is all alleged, by the way Alleged.
Speaker 2:Allegedly. No, it's a thing. No, I'm saying oh, no, no, no, the present day. I'm just saying like I take it so serious that I was like this sounds like I don't want to know, because then I'm going to be in trouble. You can do whatever go down by yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can do whatever, but anyways. And then you told me and I was like oh, okay, I was like yeah, did you think I was gonna tell you I was part of, like a crime ring?
Speaker 2:no, no, no, no, but for, for whatever reason, I thought it was like so serious that I just like like should not know oh my god, and it turns out you'd known the information all along, you just didn't keep it yeah, basically yeah, yeah, well, I'm good, I'm glad we're clearing this up yeah, cheers for that it was weighing our friendship for all these years back to business.
Speaker 1:Back to business, all right, so you have your kitties. How are your? Your baby kitties?
Speaker 2:um, my babies are fine, they're so cute. You know, milo just turned three, like a few weeks ago, and I'm like you're three years old. So if you're three years old, mila's like five or six is he a sphinx cat?
Speaker 1:because he I've seen like his video he's got like little tufts of hair yeah, so milo has a peach fuss.
Speaker 2:Yeah, actually it's not like a a puss, it's really like she, he's got hair yeah, he's like.
Speaker 1:That's why I was like is he like a?
Speaker 2:mix, maybe no, I guess, I don't know what happened to that one? He just special he came, he came out a little more hairy than it should be. Yeah, I don't know what happened there. Honestly, I'm still trying to get my money back on that one. Uh, no, because here's what's crazier. So mila, uh, is the auntie of milo. So mila's sister had babies and one of the babies is milo yeah so they're related, they.
Speaker 2:So it's kind of crazy because when I got I was like, oh, you know, it's like, this is your mommy, like you know. Because I was like, oh, you know, it's like, this is your mommy, like you know, because it's like an older woman, you know she's a female. But then I'm like, oh, but technically you're the auntie, but like she's like your baby. And then like it's like brother, mommy, auntie, everything. Did she treat him like her baby when he first came, or was she just like no, she was a total B about it. She hated him. She kind of still does. Well, he's a boy, he cherubizes her, yeah. So you know, there's times that they cuddle and they're very cutesy together, but there are times that, like Mila just cannot stand him Right. So I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1:She wants her to ease in.
Speaker 2:In general, Just bugging her. Yeah, you know she likes her space and sometimes, you know, if he is like too close, like literally, if he just like walks by, she'll go like and it's like dude, he's not even okay, I get it. He tried, like he's traumatized, you know, because he abuses her, but like right now he's not doing anything to you. So relax, yeah. But yeah, if she's like cuddling me, and then he'll come and like maybe get near, yeah, she's grumpy, and then she runs away, she's just a grumpy lady.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, mila, you know, for a while I did feel bad because I, you know, I've had Mila and you know I thought she really needed company, which is why I got him A companion, yeah, but then I'm like sometimes I feel bad, I'm like maybe I should have gotten him, because I guess, you know, it was like my three years that her and I were together, Just you know, just me, and her, I think, even if she doesn't like him all the time.
Speaker 1:No, I think she does enjoy.
Speaker 2:It's better. Yeah, to have better.
Speaker 2:yeah, to have company, like you're not home all the time yeah, so well I am home more now, but obviously I still travel and stuff, so it does make it easier, I think. And then even just like right now, like I'm out, even just doing this, like you know, I I don't feel bad for leaving her, yeah, alone so long. But then again the times where, like he's just going great, like he goes great, he goes like full wrestling, attack like jump arms. So he's just going crazy, like he goes great, he goes like full wrestling, attack like jump arms so he's still in like kitten mode almost basically I guess I don't listen.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I really have to like spray him with the water like I had to yeah, I had to spray him and I scream at him. Sometimes I do lock him out in the room, so like it's literally like toddlers, like I'm screaming like hey guys, yeah, you know. And so sometimes I feel bad because I'm like it's literally like toddlers, like I'm screaming like hey guys, yeah, you know. And so sometimes I feel bad because I'm like he's like disturbing her peace, you know he's just got energy.
Speaker 1:You know, I don't know, I feel like, because I mean my cats, they're older, mickey, my the black cat, he's older than missy the white one and he's the terror. He's the one that will bully the younger one and he's like like 10, or no, missy's 10, so he's gotta be like 11, 12 and he still has his moments where he like is like hunting him, but not in like a mean way, he's just like, it's like he's just trying to mess with him.
Speaker 2:It's like, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:But he is being a bully because it's not reciprocated.
Speaker 2:He's like missy, like in the corner, like like afraid yeah, so like milo likes to, the way he likes to play is like full wrestle attack. And then mila, she likes to chase, more like chasing around, like running yeah so you know, like they just don't, the personalities kind of don't match yeah so I feel bad sometimes, but you know, now it's been three years, so you know just what it is you can't get rid of it now.
Speaker 2:Now it's part of the family, but I just feel like you know, for a while, like it was just me, it was just the girls, you know, just me and my female cat. And then, all of a sudden, you know, like my boyfriend came along. So you know, just like a.
Speaker 1:She's like a man.
Speaker 2:Yeah sure, and then my like, the guys started coming in and just kind of like you know she's like what is happening to my life?
Speaker 1:yeah, what is this? I really do feel that way though. But you gotta figure, like you know, if you had like, oh, like you first had like a daughter, and then like you have another baby and it's a boy. You know, yeah, I know, it's just what happens but yeah, it's gonna be bad, it's okay, I'm sure they're cuddling right now you know, recently it's again.
Speaker 2:It's crazy because they kind of switch, but recently they have been sleeping. You know I have no new beds. Oh, because you know me that had so many beds and so many things, yeah, like enough that I don't. I didn't buy bigger new beds, so now they're. Where should be one cat? There's two cats in there so they barely fit. But yeah, they're, they're they're cuddling in there.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's cute though it's cute, but then there's a lot of growling before the cuteness because, again, if mila's in there, then milo starts coming in and she's, like you know, not happy about it, but then she'll like lick it. They're crazy, they're just, they're too much. They gotta settle before they get comfy Exactly.
Speaker 1:So, like, when you do travel, what do you do like with them? Do you have like a cat sitter? Do you take them to like a kennel, Like what do you do so?
Speaker 2:at first with Mila. If it's like a longer trip, then I will leave her at this, uh, cat center, uh, like you know, boarding basically, and then my look him around and obviously the trips were just like it's impossible, impossible to take two, exactly. I just say kids, but I mean they're my kids and so now they're, definitely they were. I will leave them at the boarding center.
Speaker 1:Yeah, basically Boarding school.
Speaker 2:I know right. But now actually recently I found these like I get sitters. So they come to my place now because, you know, I like the cat center. They treat them well and they love them and they have like cat walks and it's like it's like a play there. Honestly, when I pick them up from there, like it's like little kids, like they don't want to leave the park, basically. Uh. But now I have the sitter come, just because it's easier, because, let's say, you know, if I have to catch a flight, then I have to like pack all their stuff, like their feet or the water, whatever, and then I have to take him there. You know, come back, get my stuff. It's like a lot, you know. Then coming back to, let's say, if I come back um late night, then obviously I have to wait till the next morning to be able to pick them up um, and also that, like sometimes, like you know, when I I ride home and it's like it's it's, it really feels like it's empty, like nobody's home you
Speaker 2:know, um, so now with the sitter I kind of like it better because I feel like they have more space. They don't have a catwalk like at the center, but you know they're not in, like it's basically a cage right, like it's a big condo they call them condos and they're very roomy or whatever. But you know they're not out and about like all day there's been, even though they're really good to me. They will leave them out, depending if there's not a lot of cats in that one like room, for example, they will leave them out like all day outside, like the, the kennel, uh. But if there's cats, then you know they only go out like for an hour and so you know I feel like they have like constricted space, right.
Speaker 1:So if they're at the house, then they can do the realm of the house yeah exactly Right.
Speaker 2:So and again, just because it's easier, I'm doing that now. I have a lady that comes in.
Speaker 1:So where have you been traveling to lately?
Speaker 2:Well, I travel back and forth from the Bay at san jose in la because my partner lives in san jose. So we go back and forth. You know if I'm not up there he's down here, and you know sometimes just travel. You know just like places where we go. You know if you'd like go on vacation, you know right, but but mostly just back and forth the bay and like, depending like if we're doing car stuff, a lot of stuff happens, I mean like all over basically but that was like gonna segue into.
Speaker 1:My next topic was like the car, like you were very much into like the car world, car modeling, the car industry. So I kind of want to talk about the good old days. So, yeah, what got you started in that and all that?
Speaker 2:yeah, take it away okay, well, my passion for cars like it's so crazy because I always hear, you know, like, uh, when you meet girls that are in the industry, either like just just car lovers or models or whatever, um, well, especially a girl that's really into cars, like they're fixing them and the modding them and the you know maintenance or whatever, is usually because they have, like either their father or their older brother, like someone got them into that world. And for me, like I I didn't have that. So like I always felt, like I remember, uh, when I was little and let's say, if I heard like a car, you know, like an exhaust, and I liked, I was like, oh, what's that? And so I just remember, like I've always just kind of sauce, whatever. And if I liked, I was like, oh, what's that? And so I just remember like I've always just kind of like cars.
Speaker 2:And then obviously once I got my first car and that's kind of when I started really getting into it, like I don't even know how I found this um car club for that car that I had before like my first car, and like I guess they had like car meets and you know, it's like a car meets are like it just in a random parking lot like a home depot at night, and I remember like, um, I was, I was so confident in my younger years, um, like I just went by myself. You know, I'm like I always say I have like single nobody, like I just and I didn't know anybody just like showed up to the meet, yeah, and just started making friends, and one thing led to another. Somehow I don't quite. I remember the person who got me into the car shows has a model, but I don't quite remember like how that even happened. Like how did I even meet this person?
Speaker 2:Uh, I guess I should give them a shout out. You know, yeah, he knows I love him, like it's he's part of my journey. Uh, he owns long beach auto tech.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, he just was like come model for my car, I wanted to shows and and I went and then, you know, you just meet people and yeah, like just just gonna so that was like your start into the industry yeah exactly, yeah and then obviously I started learning more and being into the scene like it's becoming really a model, because obviously you know before, like I don't know how to post, I don't know how to take photos with the cars, like I don't know any of this stuff, and I started learning and eventually, you know, I finessed my way into getting paid to go to these shows, right, you know, as a model like, yay, you know, and so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So what was like your first like big car show, do you remember? Or like the one that you were just like, oh my god, I get to go to that uh, you know what I feel like you.
Speaker 2:That's crazy, because when you said, like I didn't have this, like I've made it that way, but I do remember. I don't remember the name of the show, but I do. I like to have photos. I remember the first show that I went to, like I remember, like the experience. I can't remember the name or where it was, but I remember when I was like Like I'm a model.
Speaker 1:Basically this is cool. Like this is it Like I'm doing it? Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I didn't have like oh my God, I've made it Like honestly even like, after I left, I was, like I still sometimes like I can't believe, like I again I do. When I say finesse, I really mean like finesse my way into getting paid, Because the reality is that a lot of the girls, especially the models, like you, you do, they're not car girls, um, so they're just models and they start doing these shows for exposure. Okay, right, because then, like you start getting like they can build a portfolio kind of thing a portfolio, you know, I guess an audience like I don't know, social media following for
Speaker 2:example, uh, and for me I, if anything like I wanted to become a car model or be there because I wanted to be around the cars, because I truly am passionate about the car stuff, yeah. So I was like, oh, I can come here and hang out and do all this and get paid, right, you know it's like it's no brainer for me, I don't know. But you know, I mean, I do love it as a passion, but if I get paid it's even better you know, that's kind of how.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's how that happens. Oh interesting, I never knew that. Yeah, and you see a lot of the like the big models. Again they start there and they move on to other things, like they become djs, they become like host of like whatever you know. So again, it's just kind of like a platform. So for that reason I think a lot you know most girl and you know when you start like you start there, so you're, you know you're, because you're like a nobody, you don't know how to post.
Speaker 1:You don't know how to.
Speaker 2:You're nobody. You kind of go there and become something you know, a model, and then you go on and it's like you're jumping off point.
Speaker 1:You're right, you're point, like you'll be.
Speaker 2:You're your starting point. Yeah, you know. So you know, we all start from somewhere in whatever it is that you're doing, and that for the car scene, for the models, that is the the thing, that's it okay and so for me, until this day, I'm like I I finessed my way into getting paid because I'm just like I don't.
Speaker 2:I mean, I know how I did it, but in my head I was like I don't know how I like I did that, like I really became this thing, that like like they were paying me to go, like why, what well, this company's paying me. I get it like I still can't believe it, um, but yeah that's cool.
Speaker 1:So then, so you've been able to travel with like your modeling, so where's been like the coolest place you've been able to go to?
Speaker 2:um well, the coolest um will be when I made my partner. We'll get into that. But, um, as a car model, I didn't travel so much for work, for that work, because you know you have to be careful too. So I actually did not travel so much or travel too far, uh, for these events. But I know girls, you know that you can fly, at least for now, now that, um, I run the car club with my partner. You know we fly the girls wherever it is that we're going. So but just for me, I was very cautious as to like who was hiring you.
Speaker 2:I mean again, like don't turn me around, like getting paid is nice, right, but I was always careful, like okay who is this company?
Speaker 1:or? I mean, you don't want to become like a dateline episode exactly.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, maybe that's why, like I, like I have these fears like I, I mean, it's a real thing oh no, it's like it's.
Speaker 1:It's scary. Out there I was literally yesterday, my boyfriend and I we've been watching. We needed like a new show to binge, because all of our shows are like off, you've off season. So we went to like max and we went on the id channel. We found that this, this, what's it called? Oh, it's called like a house of whores or something like kidnapped whatever. It's fucking terrifying.
Speaker 1:It's a similar show to the Deadline. Yeah, but it was about this girl. She thought she was going to be like a traveling makeup artist and so she went to the interview and she felt weird about it. So she went to leave and they pulled her into the car and they it was a sex trafficking ring, right and she was stuck for like a year and a half until finally she like kind of earned their trust.
Speaker 1:So they gave her a phone and then she was like she played and yeah, like she played the lone, but at the same like they like broke her down and she was in this thing and I'm just like, oh my god, like I think I would have been too scared to go to the interview.
Speaker 2:It can happen to anybody. Anybody, a makeup artist like what?
Speaker 1:yeah, I mean she just, she just thought she was gonna like do makeup for, like you know, like some like not like big fashion shows, but just like.
Speaker 2:But again, I mean, you start from somewhere, you gotta start somewhere and I was like like, honestly, there were a few times where, like people, you know, I was messaging with companies or people and it just it really felt weird, like oh, you're whether like texas, arizona, whatever, and it felt weird and I was like, yeah, I don't think so, you know, like okay, well, if you especially if it's out of town right, like okay, you're paying me my rate, my day rate or whatever it is, and you're getting me a like my own room and playing for my airfare. And again, when those details kind of started being talked about, you know, there were there were some times that I felt like we're energy. So I was like, okay, yeah, maybe I should not go to that and I didn't. So I I turned down a lot of jobs for that reason right yeah well, that's good, I mean.
Speaker 1:But you know, I know the girls get paid you know, I know some, some other girls.
Speaker 2:You know they go to texas or whatever the shows are like, even hawaii, like you know yeah, I mean it's a possibility but a quick free trip to hawaii like but what if it's not a? Quick free trip to hawaii right, no, yeah you know, I'm just saying like I've seen obviously some girls that have gone to those places.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you said you met your partner now? Yeah, through a job. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 2:Because we like to talk about love, yeah, so okay, newsflash. I'm just kidding. I'm basically dating my boss.
Speaker 1:I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:That's always the most fun. I mean, I always like to joke around because you know, like I I mean I have gotten that before when people like you, basically I mean like he. So he runs a card club and he hired me for one of his events, right, and basically that's how I met and that was three years ago, uh, three years ago, okay, yes, and sometimes when I have told this story to people, they're like yeah, like you're a baby.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm going to tell you one vivid story. It was on a plane. This lady was sitting next to me and I don't know why she felt enticed to start talking to me and just asking me questions. Long story short. I don't know why I was telling her that. I think it was maybe I was on the Like. She asked you oh, why?
Speaker 1:are you?
Speaker 2:going here, yeah, I don't know. And then Longstreet Shore, she basically gave me that like the side eye, and they're like the judge, you're like, oh, you're like you're sleeping with your boss.
Speaker 1:you're one of those. Right like you those, but also, like lady, we're going to san jose.
Speaker 2:I'm having a conversation with you, mind your goddamn business, right? So, first of all, you're a stranger, like you don't, I don't need your little rude comments and I'm like you're asking me questions and like, I guess, being friendly and social, and then like our reciprocan. You're being judgy? Yeah, it's like she.
Speaker 1:She saw that the conversation to like what?
Speaker 2:be mean. No, I, I get, I mean listen this whole thing, like listen, I think I'm a feminist, yeah, but uh, you know, there's this whole like world out there with more opinionated women.
Speaker 1:I think a lot of women hate, women like women are. Oh my gosh, we are women, hate women the most yeah, like we should all band together and like become one and bring, bring each other up and build each other and empower each other, and instead we tear each other down and we talk shit and we slut shame and we talk about looks and this not. It's like, why can't we just all like build each other up and empower, like when you said like, oh, we love to talk about love.
Speaker 2:I'm like, basically, I'm telling you my love story and you're like, oh, we love to talk about love. I'm like, basically, I'm telling you my love story and you're like you're judging me for it, like, yeah, like leave me alone, but anyway, so, yeah, that that was that. Yeah, but yes, I mean, basically, in the little technicalities you know, he hired me for one of his events and I was, you know, like it was one of the models, and we just, like you know, hit it off, like yeah, I know it's looked upon, like down, I guess, upon what was it?
Speaker 2:looked down upon yeah, I looked down upon to like that stuff, but first of all, it's not like.
Speaker 2:It's like at a law firm or like yeah, it's not like I'm the secretary yeah like okay, yes, it was my boss for like a day, yeah, like you know. But anyways, point is, you know like these things happen and so, anyways, so it happened, yeah, with us. And we just like, oh, I guess this is, this is, and, and also, you know, we were like is this like a fling? It is like a you know or not, and you know obviously turns out, we were right so yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, and I mean honestly, I can still say I am banging my boss because you know, now I help him and he's like business, like he's you know um law firm, basically. So, yeah, I'm still banging my boss there you go.
Speaker 1:Haha, lady on the plane, I know right you know you judgy bitches out there judgy. So judgy, it's the worst. Yeah, so after you met him, how long after that, did you like leave the like? Modeling, car modeling industry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's. I mean yeah About two years, I think.
Speaker 1:So that's like a year ago from like right now, it feels longer, but yeah. Time doesn't mean anything anymore.
Speaker 2:I know I have the worst like special time, but maybe even longer, to be honest. I mean like two years so what made you? Quit. I know right. It's so funny because even on my instagram bio I think I like changing. I was like um, I think I have former car model because I was gonna like retire like now that sounds old retired.
Speaker 1:Sounds like like they forced you out. Oh okay, that's true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would just do former. Yeah, I think I have former because it's like I was focusing on the age. I'm like like retire, like what?
Speaker 1:am I 80?
Speaker 2:yeah, but anyways um yeah, I, I mean the reason. Just I think it was time, honestly, you know, I did it for so long, like honestly. It's like I'm like usually, you know, modeling in general, you don't do it that long, yeah and especially a place where, like I said, most girls just start there. You know, I was there, I started in like 2015. And and so I'm like I had a long, yeah trajectory, if you will, um, and so you know, a lot of the shows are kind of like the same shows, a lot of the same cars, the same like builds that the people show in their their cars and stuff. And I don't know, I think you know I was going through my healing, uh journey and obviously like my personal development. Now I guess, yeah, that I just didn't feel the same connection.
Speaker 2:You know, I still obviously love the cars and the passion and the hobby and the like events, but I, yeah, I guess I lost a little bit of the passion, the wow, the drive or the drive, because I did it for so long yeah yeah, and then also, you know, just getting serious with my partner, um, I guess in a way I was like I don't, I shouldn't be a thing of like lust anymore I don't know it's only for his eyes, yeah, like you know, obviously, when you're doing these things like, like, always a lot of people like, admire you and look up to you. And then you know, obviously there's yeah. Yeah, I remember I wasn't like a superstar.
Speaker 1:I remember what year. I can't remember what year it was, but you gave me a calendar that you were in. I was going to say when you Did, I give you one of my own.
Speaker 2:You gave me one of the calendar I'm trying to remember what year Don't you still have it? You don't.
Speaker 1:No, hater. Well, I was like is it pre-pandemic or post-pandemic? I don't remember, but I think it was before, I think. Yeah, I want to say you were like it was one of my biggest gigs or something.
Speaker 2:It was one of my biggest gigs, yeah, um, but I had that, I had the calendar, but it's not.
Speaker 1:It's we're 2025 now, lady it's memorabilia. You don't know, I could have become this like superstar really well, you didn't sign it for me, so I guess it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 2:You didn't ask me to sign it. I could sign it right now. I'm just just kidding, Pull one out. But you know that's so funny. You mentioned it because that was okay. See, now, that was like, oh my God, that was one of my biggest moments as a car model, Like you know, being in magazines and like a calendar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I still have mine frame. It's on the floor right now, but I have I frame mine it's on the floor right now well, when I moved to my place, I never put it up and I've just been there behind the door but, but yes, that is one of my biggest moments okay, so how about you send me a picture of it so I can post it?
Speaker 1:okay story, so that they know what we're talking about and also tell me what month it was, because I want to say you were july, I can't remember I was in two months, but like, okay, I am the center, I'm the.
Speaker 2:What do you call the?
Speaker 1:The centerfold.
Speaker 2:I'm the centerfold. Oh so, playboy of you. I know right. So, yeah, I'm in two months, but yeah, one is the centerfold, yeah, and I think it's July. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:See, I remember, oh my, you're a good friend.
Speaker 2:I remember Cheers, cheers, she's a good friend I mean I knew that, but now you're like really proven it. Now that was a moment was like I've made it, like I'm like I am a car model people, I'm the center of all of a calendar love that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay. So what are you doing now, now that you've left, now that I'm retired, now that, now that you're retired, I know?
Speaker 2:um well, mostly it's funny, because when people ask me like well, why do you do you? Know, I feel like I know right like what do you?
Speaker 1:do I? I try my best, every day.
Speaker 2:My best idea, my best, um. You know, again, as a joke, I mean, it's not, it's true, but as a like a feminist joke. Like I'm a, I'm a stay-at-home girlfriend. You know, I do nothing all day just sit around with my cats yeah, um, but I do do a lot of things, you know.
Speaker 2:Um, I still try to keep up with my social media, like doing like digital marketing, um just content in general, I mean in general, but I'm still trying to find my way into like what I'm doing on social media. To be honest with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I went really hard, you're talking to someone who's like clawing their way through. Like, imagine, like.
Speaker 2:I've been doing it for years. I don't have long and now like I'm struggling you know, especially because, like, I went from like again being this thing, this car model, doing all these like fun things on the weekends and like this and that, to now I'm like nothing. Like I wash dishes, I do laundry, you know I like bathe my kids, yeah, um, but truly, though, I mean I, I do a lot, um, you know, I also help my partner with his car club what kind of car club does he have?
Speaker 1:so he has an exotic car club okay, because I see you post like videos of, like, of, like you guys like in these like cool cars. And so I was like oh, what is she doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so he has an exotic car club, okay, but more importantly it's a rally car club, meaning like we don't just go places and sit and hang out. I mean we do, but his events are mostly rallies, which means you know we like drive, we do long drives, okay, mostly rallies. Which means you know we like drive, we do long drives, okay, and like some. I think the latest one was, you know, we started in San Diego and we drove to like Palm Springs to LA, and you know there's like two, three days oh that's cool Of like rallying.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, okay yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's fun. So you know, when there's events, obviously like I help him with a lot of the stuff, like either like creating the merch or help him with like just like little details. You know, now I organize the models that we hire for our events, and so we do that. And then also I help him with his business, I guess in the personal injury attorneys world, and so you know, like I just help him. Listen, if you ask me yeah, like what do you do? I'm the unpaid assistant, unpaid translator, unpaid, you know, unpaid everything. So you know, know, it's like you kind of have your hand in everything at the.
Speaker 1:Moment.
Speaker 2:I am a stay home girlfriend, but then I also do a lot of stuff from home and again, you know whatever he's doing, then you know I'm helping him and supporting him, so I guess that's the best way I can describe it. I don't you know?
Speaker 1:I love that. I hate the question what do you do, Girl? Imagine I'm just trying to live.
Speaker 2:Lady Girl, imagine, like in his personal injury world, like I'm surrounded by like doctors and attorneys all the time, and you know I dress up nice, I like to. You know yeah, of course he's wearing a suit you know, like, take it as my opportunity to dress nice, like, look like I have a job. Really, though, and a lot of people are like oh, are you an attorney too? And I'm just like nope, no.
Speaker 1:I've been like I am Thank you. Yeah, what school did you go to?
Speaker 2:I know right. Well, luckily. I'm just like no, I'm just the pretty face next to him.
Speaker 1:I like no, I'm just the pretty face next to him, I you know yeah yeah, he just rented me for the night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, yeah, um, but again, I, I it's like I do nothing, but I do a lot of things.
Speaker 1:Yeah no, I don't, I don't picture, I don't. I know you well. I can't see you sitting at home staring at the wall yeah that's not like the type of person that you are you know you can't just do nothing. So I don't believe you're just a stay-at-home girlfriend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even though we do, but again, you know, I mean I like to like just piss off people, you know just like yes I'm banging my boss and yes, I'm a stay-at-home girlfriend right? No, I'm just the pretty thing for the haters yeah, I mean hater or not.
Speaker 2:It's just like. You know, early when you asked me like why I left the car industry, you know, I think the real reason is, you know, I'm on a stage in my life that I'm like, okay, I'm moving into the next stage, and you know, I guess you can't be all of these other things while you're still doing all of these other things you know, so I'm transitioning in into womanhood yeah, I mean you just had your, or not just you had your 30th birthday.
Speaker 1:You're not supposed to say that whatever we already called out my age already but it's like you know, it's like now, it's like okay, no, no, but yeah, like you know, like we, we're figuring it out now. We're just trying to figure it out a little bit more. Yeah, just like moving on I mean truly.
Speaker 2:You know like, yeah, I am in my 30s and yes, I still look good, I guess, for a mod. I mean, I have a few friends that are even older than me that are still doing it. It's like always, as long as you look great, then I guess you're fine for me, like I yeah, I just like ready, like I'm moving into the next stage of my life and I guess that part really is growing up and just becoming a woman. Like you know, I am 30, like we're in our 30s people.
Speaker 2:So my first, my partner, is a personal injury attorney, yes, and you know. So now, part of the work that I do now with him, um, you know he does a lot of seminars where he's a speaker, oh, okay, and I mean honestly, just in general, I have gotten into it more. It's kind of funny, right, because it's still kind of like in with cars, but different and like more, um, I guess, less fun and more serious, I guess, because so now I guess what I do, like I'm passionate about this because like I've learned so much through him and the cases and the you know, um, the clients that we have, and for me I feel like, first of all, you know, a lot of people get really hurt in like the car accidents, and it's like I mean, really, I guess to me it's like I need a lot of mental stimulation, okay, yeah, and a lot of stimulation in general. So this is very like again, it was something new, something different, you know, with the cars of, like you know, I've, I know it all done it all you know.
Speaker 2:So when I met him and he started telling me more about his work and I just again like just supporting him, going with him to places, seminars, you know, reunions, dinners, whatever. I've gotten more into that and I'm passionate because you know I've seen a lot of people, a lot of clients, that get really hurt and they're just like not enough coverage on the insurance. So you know we do deal a lot with the insurances. You know we're not in the insurance business but kind of you know he's the attorney that yeah, I mean it's all kind of intertwined right if someone's hurt in a car accident, you know yeah, or any kind of accident actually, but yeah right and it's just so.
Speaker 2:So, like many layers, many layers to that, Like you know, unless you've been in that situation, like you don't know. And I find it fascinating because I feel, like you know, most people drive every day, Like you get into your car every single day of your life, you know, for however amount of time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And there's a lot of stuff that you don't know. Like if you have, like quickly, I'm going to go through some of the things. Like if you say like oh, I have full coverage, like now I've learned, you know, that doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Because you can have full coverage but have shady coverage, like meaning the amount of money available.
Speaker 1:Right To cover.
Speaker 2:To cover. And again you, you know we've seen so many people like horrible, horrible accidents and then there's just like like a minimum. Again it's full coverage, but like a minimum policy okay and they're just like nothing we can do, right, you know, and like some people are hurt, like for life, like they are, like not just like her, but like disabled, you know, and so you know, obviously I'm I'm very emotional and so I I take things personal and like I don't like to see people hurt, you know, I always want you to win.
Speaker 2:I'm like like the bigger sister, like the children. I'm like. I want everyone to succeed, and so when I see some of these cases like I I, it's passionate to me and anyway.
Speaker 2:So um to not make it too sad, like I feel there's a lot of knowledge that like it should be, like readily available right like everyone should know this because, again, you, you make your payments every month, yeah, and you get in your car every day and like you don't know this stuff and it's not your fault, it's just like how, like the industry, system has set it up so that you're ill-informed, right, and unless you have been into that situation and you know, and if you maybe have had an attorney, because a lot of people get into accidents and they don't hire attorneys, right, you know you don't always have to, but I think it's important to consult.
Speaker 2:You know, I know there's a lot of stigma about attorneys, right, like they just want to take your money and this, and that I think personal injury is different because you know we don't get paid until you get paid, yeah, until you win. So until you get paid, then I don't get paid and the doctors don't get paid. And guess what? Sometimes they say, by any chance, like the insurance doesn't pay, then nobody gets paid. And we've done all this work, right? So you know, honestly, sometimes my partner it's not it's an interesting industry to be in, because you go, like long periods of time and you don't see a check coming in, right, you know? I mean my partner has his own firm, like it doesn't work for anyone else, it's his practice, it's his practice. So you know, sometimes if the cases don't settle, then there's no money coming in.
Speaker 2:Right, like you. Just you know, and you still have to pay bills and you know all these expenses and the workers, Right, so you know it's interesting. But the point is, you know it's interesting, but point is, you know, like a lot, of, a lot of people don't hire attorneys and you know, even if you don't hire us, which you should. But yeah, um, I think you should consult, like if you're ever into a car accident, you should at least try and don't to get like an uh, an outsider's opinion uh, no, to contact an attorney or two or three, to be honest, like you need.
Speaker 2:Uh, another part of the work which is so interesting to me is because, so, with my partner, you know, I mean I think not just because I love him, but I think he's a really good attorney, you know, like he really thinks outside the box and we do get a lot of cases where, like other attorneys didn't want it Okay, like we've had clients where they say like we call so-and-so and so-and-so and like we call like three, five different people and they all said no, like it's, you don't have a case, like, okay, you know.
Speaker 2:And then you know we hear about it and we like hear the story and it's like no, we can work with this, there's something to be done, yeah, and so you know, I guess a lot of this, like if you are into an accident and, for example, allegedly or partial, like it's your fault, for example, like the police comes and they put you at fault, we can still work with that, okay, a lot of firms they will just straight up turn it down and be like you're at fault, you caused the accident, and if you got hurt, then sorry, um, but again, depend, you know there's more details to be discussed, but we can. You know, we usually we have ones of many cases where, like, the client was at fault, okay, or I mean again, there's like different little things. Like I'm passionate because you know, yes, of course you know, we love to get paid and make money, but we are helping people. You know, like three, five lawyers said no, yeah, and then we get it, and we get them a lot of money. It's like, you know, again, if you win, I win.
Speaker 1:Like you know what I mean, it's a win-win situation, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like, at least to me, I'm very happy when you know, we see, when we say, even like little settlements, I'm like, yeah, something like we did, you know know we won or we did something you know. Um, sometimes a lot of the clients they have like really sad stories, you know. I mean like when once you start talking to them on a daily basis or like discussing details about their lives because of this accident, how it affected them, like somehow you start learning more about them and you know there's there's a lot of need and a lot of hurt and a lot of you know sadness out there. Yeah, and you know there's there's a lot of need and a lot of hurt and a lot of you know sadness out there. Yeah, and you know, see, money doesn't buy it all or makes everything better, but sometimes, like for a lot of these people, a lot of the clients, you know it's a lot like, it's a good push, it's a it's like you know yeah, yeah, that's what they needed to get it going again, yeah, like.
Speaker 2:And again, you know, sometimes it's not always the case, but and again, even if it's not a big settlement, like hey, you get it, you know a couple grand. Like yeah again, a lot of people don't know if they're gonna be able to pay pay rent tomorrow, like you know, like next month. So to have a little bit extra, like I just love that. You know, I don't know if it like means anything to anybody else, but to me, like I'm happy to be able to help people, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's good, that's just who you are, though You're just like want to help people.
Speaker 1:You are good natured.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I'm good natured.
Speaker 1:I think you are, I don't know. I mean, I mean, I will show it, I guess.
Speaker 2:But I think so. You know, I always want to see you win. Yeah, I always want everyone to win.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree. Well, that's a good segue into our next one. Okay, yeah, I always come to you if I need advice.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I feel like you've asked me for advice.
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1:I picked two.
Speaker 2:Oh, I see what you're saying, like now we can help others. If you will, we're going to help others.
Speaker 1:I love that. All right so I picked two these aren't the only ones that were submitted. They were just the ones that I grabbed One I thought was a little fun, and then the second I was like it's scandalous.
Speaker 2:It's a scandal, all right the first one is from sarah lee.
Speaker 1:She says hi, emily, she gave her name. Yeah, they get it. Yeah, you say to sign it if you want to stay anonymous let me know, or you can just sign it sarah lee.
Speaker 2:What a brave soul.
Speaker 1:I'm just kidding sarah lee says hi, emily and lynn, I'm wanting to start my own business, but I don't know if I should. I've been wanting, I've been working in corporate america and I hate it. It's soul devouring. I've always been a really creative person and feel like that is my passion. How do I get over my fear and just get out there? Sarah Lee, wow.
Speaker 2:Sarah, that's deep. You know I've, as a creative, like I still struggle every day Making that decision. Yeah, and I know it sounds so cliche and so like, maybe not like, like it's boring, but like I always think back of the nike slogan, just do it, and you just gotta do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just do it yeah, like we were, before we even started recording you, and I were talking about how I was like so hesitant to like you were like why did you want to do this? Yeah, and I was like I've been wanting to do it for a long time. I've been like now that I'm thinking back on it. I remember talking about this with you Like I was like texting with you about it and this was like way back when I lived in my other apartment and I was like I don't know.
Speaker 1:It was like pre for sure, pre pandemic, so like maybe like 2018 or something, and I was just like that would be so much fun to start a podcast. It's been in my brain for a long time. It's just a matter of doing it. But doing it is scary because you're putting yourself out there. Yeah, you got to hope people like it, and if they don't like it, oh my god, they're not gonna like it, and then they're gonna. It's you know. It's like you have to just get over your own fear and, like you said, just do it. Just any.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's a really scary thing, right like I mean especially for sarah like you know you, you have, you know you already made this life right, you have you, you went to school for this, you have this job, you, you know, you have this thing. You know it's kind of like for me, right, like I had my world made around the car scene and being a car model, and then I, like you know it's a little different, like less scary, right, but like to like-.
Speaker 1:But you're leaving a stability for instability Right right, right.
Speaker 2:Or instability, right, right, Right, like something that like I knew what I was doing and again I knew I wasn't going to do it forever, but again like I had my world made, basically, and now it's like I don't you know, it's like all over the place, right. But yeah, I mean it's scary, but you just got to do it. You just got to do it, sarah. And here's the worst part.
Speaker 1:Like I know it's not the best answer I can give, I guess, because you know I'm trying to be positive but you can fail. It's not?
Speaker 2:always going to be successful, like I you know. Obviously. I wish you all the best and and I want to encourage you and send you all the good vibes that you can do it like if you really and I'm like again so if you put your heart into it. But, like you know, like I believe I'm big on the manifestation world, I guess, and you know you gotta have faith. Like you know, like I'm big on the manifestation world, I guess, and you know you got to have faith, like if you have the calling in your heart, if you just know that that's what you want to do, then you should do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's a feeling.
Speaker 1:And even if, like, if you want to start small, like you just still want to keep your corporate job Right, like I was going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't have to always quit your job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you'll go all in Just like start small and then just kind of like build it and then, when you feel comfortable, if you have like a pillow, like a cushion to lean on, like financial wise, where you can quit your job and you can put all your energy into this project, then do that energy into this project, then do that. But, just like you know, start small and then just kind of just kind of start small and then work your way up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, you hear a lot of stories where, like entrepreneurs that either do go full, they're like, oh, quit my job, and like you know I was, and they have these I don't know you know true or not like, right, I have these. Like, they have these stories like, oh, I couldn't pay rent. And then that's when, like, the biggest thing happened okay, I made a million dollars and that's great for you, but again, the reality also is that that doesn't happen to everyone and so, yeah, like don't maybe don't quit your corporate job just yet, but definitely make the time.
Speaker 2:Uh, you know yeah, start small.
Speaker 1:Just start doing it, let it build, whatever it is like. You start working on it and you know yeah, start small just start doing it, let it build whatever it is like.
Speaker 2:You start working on it and you know again, you do hear the on others on the other side like some entrepreneurs would say, like I was doing both at the same time and once they felt comfortable to leave, you know whatever they were doing then to fully, you know, to like make sure that they're gonna succeed, because, again, the reality is that, like, not everyone succeeds.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, and a lot of people, they take a long time too. You know I've seen like influencers talk about when they say like it took like 10 years of like posting content.
Speaker 1:Right, which we're hoping that's not the case.
Speaker 2:I know, right, hold on wait. Please like, comment and share. Please, yeah, please follow us. Yeah, thank you for listening. I mean, I mean truly like it's. It's, it's scary, you know, yeah, for sure, yeah, I just you know. We wish you well and just do it all. Right, you ready for the next one? The scandal one oh yeah, definitely okay, yes, let's do it yeah, let's cheers real quick before we answer this what did she give her name? Or he? She's anonymous, okay, would you? Cheers to anonymous anonymous says.
Speaker 1:The subject line was my friend is cheating on her husband. Girl, stop it. This is the question. Okay so this is complicated, but I have a tight-knit circle of about six people my husband and myself, my friend and her husband and two others Another couple I assume I don't know. She just said two others. Another couple I assume I don't know. She just said two others. My friend recently told me she's been having an emotional affair with a co-worker for about a year and it recently turned physical. I told her she needs to stop or tell her husband and she said she will, but she hasn't yet. My fear is, if it comes out that I knew and didn't say anything, I will become the bad guy. What?
Speaker 2:should I do Wait, wait, wait, because obviously she's friends with both.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it seems like it's a close-knit circle. She says tight-knit circle of six people.
Speaker 2:First of all, I want to say I don't mean to be judgy, because we were talking. I'm like and I don't want to seem like in the video like oh my gosh, he's judging, like you haven't even finished finishing the like question. Um, you know, it's so crazy because my partner and I just had this conversation and we decided, well, he told me that this actually happened to him. Ooh, I know, right, I'm just like, ooh, listen, my partner and I have very intellectual conversations.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, no, I'm not saying ooh to that, I'm saying ooh, it happened.
Speaker 2:No, I don't know how we got into the subject, but he told me this actually happened to him. Okay, what did he do? I come up with these like questions of the day and I just get like random stuff and I probably ask like right, like if you know that one of our friends, just like anybody like my friends like is cheating on someone, like would you say, would you say something? And we talked about it and he said he wouldn't because it's not his business, because this happened to him and he didn't say anything, or he?
Speaker 2:did say something and it blew up in his face and he said something and he blew up on his face and he lost his friendship oh shit, yeah, and so first I don't know what my answer was back then, but now I have decided not to tell.
Speaker 1:also, Right, I feel like if you had like a loyalty to like the husband first. Then there's a hierarchy. Yeah, like you know, like you know what I mean, like if there was, like like I, like that's my best, like that husband was my best friend, and you were his wife, like maybe.
Speaker 2:Like, for example, you and I were friends before, like we were partners, so you know, yeah. So like, for example yeah.
Speaker 1:Sorry, babe, If I was cheating on him you wouldn't go tell him Well, now I again after like.
Speaker 2:I had this conversation with my partner.
Speaker 1:Yeah, with my partner. Yeah, I'm, I won, don't come asking me right. So yeah, it's hard. But also like if they make you the bad guy, they're just looking for a scapegoat for their own issues. You know, like why are you all of a sudden the bad guy and not the person who's having the emotional, physical affair?
Speaker 2:first of all, right, like it's, more to that. Because then for me I'm like okay, well, if I don't say anything, but let's say, let's say, right, like bob, um, then he finds out, right that I knew not, that, like you know, that happens, like that I knew and I didn't say anything. And obviously I consider both of you my friends, but you're more my friend than him right.
Speaker 2:But still, you know, like if he finds out, like if if let's say, you're having an affair and I just don't say anything, and then he doesn't make anything of it, but if he knows that I knew and I didn't tell him, you know, that's a different story, because what if he doesn't know that I knew right, but it's like it's.
Speaker 1:I know it's.
Speaker 2:That's like such, like a tangled web it's like so it's the fact that you're friends with that.
Speaker 1:You and your husband are friends with both of them, I wonder I'm assuming her husband, like the girl who wrote in. I'm assuming her husband doesn't know because it's not like they're coming at it as like we are two people that know we're in this together. So she's kind of floating on her own boat right now. Yeah, I would say, maybe talk to your husband.
Speaker 2:Listen. I'm glad you brought it up, because I was going to say I don't know. Listen, not that I tell, like if you tell me a secret I'm going to run to my partner, but I do tell him a lot.
Speaker 1:I run a lot by him Me too. I need a sounding board, Otherwise the thoughts are bouncing in my own head and I got like two brain cells up here and they're just like fighting each other.
Speaker 2:So I need.
Speaker 1:I need a calm, level headed perspective which is what he is to my frantic voice, but anyways I.
Speaker 2:it's so complicated but I just wouldn't say anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, I wouldn't, I, I wouldn't either, I think I would more, oh, more, oh wait, can you elaborate on the?
Speaker 2:I guess the hierarchy, for example, like so obviously this sounds like it's like her friend like I don't know the hierarchy. I was just giving an example no, no, but I'm saying like if, oh, like, answer to to the question, right, like, so, like if it sounds like it was like you know she, it sounds like she's a girl first of all, yeah, it was a girl.
Speaker 1:This is.
Speaker 2:It sounds like she's a girl first of all. Yeah, it was a girl. That's insane that it's a girl, and then that her girlfriend told her right, so it's the two females and obviously the guys are not involved, correct, it's kind of it's just rough, right, because, like you're trusting me with this information, yeah, and you don't want to go against her trust, I think what I would do.
Speaker 2:First, yeah, and you don't want to go against her trust, I think what I would, first of all, I would go. I just wouldn't say anything, first of all because I don't want to break your, like the trust that you've given me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with that, because it's not so much like trusting gossip but like obviously this is a very serious yeah, it seems like she hasn't told anyone else, like I'm confining, confining, confiding, confiding in you and like, not just to, like tell you, but maybe like get confident, like, oh my gosh, like I don't you know what I mean maybe the advice, yeah, and then, if then like you turn and like, basically tat my thing.
Speaker 1:So I I think what I would do is I would go to your friend, the one who's having the affair, and just say like, look this, need you? You need to stop this and, if you know, first of all listen. This is this is why friendship is hard, because, like I think I would just more like, first of all as a friend, like it's kind of hard, like I I I would not be comfortable to.
Speaker 2:I will tell you like what I think you should do yeah but that's the thing, like like friendship means, at least to me, that no matter what you do like, I'm there girl yeah, you're still, if you're making some like dumb ass decisions out there, but it's like I'm, like I'm there to hold you when that blows up in your face.
Speaker 2:I'm here to hold you, that. But then you know like that's just me, um, but at the same time you know you don't want to lose that friendship. I mean, it's it's yeah, this is great. It's hard, then you're you're not just breaking up the relationship between like the friendship with the, like friends, yeah, but then like marriages and then the entire group.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this entire group is going to implode. Yeah, it's going to fall apart.
Speaker 1:Don't say anything, girl, I wouldn anything and if anything comes, I just pretend I would just talk to the friend that's having the affair and just be like I think you need. If you don't want to come clean, you really just need to end it and commit to your relationship. But if you don't want to commit to your relationship and you want to see this affair through, whatever that may be or maybe you don't even want to see it through, you just don't think you should be married anymore then that's your path. But you can't keep up the lie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not that I'm gonna say anything, but listen, listen, listen this is coming back full circle for me because remember, at the beginning, when I was like see, I rather not know, yes, bitch, don't tell me shit. That like then I'm like I'm gonna you know what I mean. Like just don't tell me and see, if I don't know, then I don't have to. You're like I have nothing to say up ignorant.
Speaker 1:Ignorance is very bliss, exactly. So yeah, don't, don't, yeah, don't say anything. I yeah, because it's, it's messing up too many dynamics, I think the.
Speaker 2:What I want to get to is like I mean, obviously, if she's sending uh the this inquiry, right, like uh it's eating at her too, yeah, like having the secret, yeah she's. So if it's bothering, you just say you know what, like you cannot, like I again, I rather not know anymore I don't want to know more details if it's weighing on you, then I think you should tell your friend to not tell you anymore.
Speaker 1:That's right you don't feel comfortable knowing.
Speaker 2:It's a big one to put on someone, right? Yeah, yeah, I agree, I think that was good. I think it was good, I mean, yeah, it was very energetic at the beginning.
Speaker 1:It's heavy, yeah, it's heavy.
Speaker 2:It's a good one, it's nerve-wracking. Yeah, yeah, just don't say anything there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just don't say anything. Yeah, there's too many lives at risk for this one lie that you don't want to be the bearer of bad news Because everyone shoots the messenger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm telling you my partner, he's straight up, like with no hesitation or nothing. He was like I won't and I was like, wait, no, you gotta tell me more, yeah. And then he told me the story and I like, yeah, no, you're right. Like, like the person you know, his friend didn't believe him.
Speaker 1:Okay and oh yeah, I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2:Like right, like his friend was like why, yeah, the denial? Right, right, and his friend you know they're no longer friends. But like the guy was just like I don't know what you're talking about, why are you doing this like it's not. And then, yeah, like you said, obviously then he's the bad guy. Like yeah, you can shut up and it's right, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, that was a good one, and that was an amazing one hope right back in and let us know if there's any developments updates, hopefully. Yeah, like I need to know more of this story. I know, I know, I wish I could have like emailed her back and been like Can you elaborate a little?
Speaker 2:more. Yeah, I need more details.
Speaker 1:Okay, so obviously you're great at the advice. Now we need your gremlin story. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Forgot how to do that. You know, my g's story was fun, like I actually feel like I love at least the one that I chose to share with you. Yeah, I love it because I had a good time, like I. It's still one of the best times of my life. Um, I was high I don't know if that was a surprise to anybody, but it was my first time being that kind of high and I just I still like, I feel like I'm feeling the feeling right now Like I loved everybody, I loved everything.
Speaker 2:You were having a great time. No, it was crazy because, like, obviously, I am like, am like tough love, like I don't show my love and affection and I think at some point I have said, you know, like I love you and I'm sorry if I don't say that enough to like you and like to all of my friends and family. I just, you know there's a lot of traumas. I was gonna say some, but there's a lot, um, and you know that time. Why was it's? Because it's kind of special for me too, because I felt like I was just so free to tell everybody I think I kissed you you did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we shared a couple drunk and like on the lips, like yeah, I think, like, yeah, you were like pecs, I love you. I love you. Yeah, I was like this is such a great time and yeah, I mean I just loved everybody. Yeah, um, I'm not so sure how that's a gremlin story, but it's just a fun story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it was so beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we had a great time right, it was great up until I got sober. Yeah, until it wasn't. Because then I mean yeah, I guess I was just well sober. I don't know how else to explain like we were it was like you know, it's like you have like a really high, high and then the low you got crashed, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:So we were out partying and like having fun. And then you really wanted to go to breakfast and I was like we're not going it was one of those nights that turn into morning yeah, we become like sanderson sisters, like the sun is coming up, oh god, we gotta go, so and listen, that's the thing about me.
Speaker 2:Like I can always eat, yeah, so I was like I was done to eat. I was like we're not going to breakfast it was you myself and another friend.
Speaker 1:We're like, we're gonna go um, we're gonna go back to my house yeah I had to go pack because I was going to vegas that day don't remember that part.
Speaker 2:So actually, no, you want I do. And then our other friend and I just stayed in, yeah, so I was like, I was like you guys, I was like I'm gonna leave you guys hang out yeah, and then you're sober, whatever, yeah so I was like get sober, chill, I'm gonna rally, I'm gonna shower.
Speaker 1:How did you do?
Speaker 2:that girl.
Speaker 1:I used to be a machine, if you ask me to do, used to be a machine.
Speaker 2:If you asked me to do it. I know, right Again, the good old days, if you asked me to do it right now I'd be like I can't move Girl. No, I can't do like two margaritas at dinner anymore.
Speaker 1:So I rallied and then I went to go, get in the shower and you food.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I didn't, you didn't let me. No, I didn't, it was one of those like you're not going to be hungry soon. You're not going to be hungry soon. I am very hungry.
Speaker 1:You're like I don't feel good. And I was like you don't feel good yeah.
Speaker 2:And you're like I don't feel good.
Speaker 1:I was like fixes everything man um girl yeah, no, and then I just put you to bed. I put you both into my bed and tucked you guys in. Yeah, I put on. I think I put on romeo michelle's high school reunion you guys passed out. And then I asked another friend of ours, jackie. She's been on the podcast before I was, because she lives down the street. I was like, hey, look, okay, I have a situation. See some parts I like I don't remember I was blocking out.
Speaker 1:I gotta leave to vegas in like an hour. Yeah, I'm gonna leave these two in my apartment. She had a key to that place. I was like can you just go check on them? Yeah, like before you go to work and just like, make sure, like they're good, like they're fine, she's like I got you, I got you, and she said that she went in and that she was like that you both yeah, she said that you were trying to get up and like go, but that you were like I think I'm gonna sit for a little longer and that you.
Speaker 1:She was like okay, she's like do you think? She gave you guys some water, I think she brought you.
Speaker 2:It was one of those like again, the beginning was wonderful.
Speaker 2:Again, like I oh no, my best memory, but then it was, it was bad, yeah it was bad because you're serious, but also, you know, I just I mean it was like a lot of kinds of uncomfortable, like obviously you know, yeah, I have been in your place, but you know, I'm always not your home. It's not my home, yeah and then, obviously, I'm like having all these feelings, all these, like crazy brand new feeling. I'm already uncomfortable inside, yeah, and I'm in a like uncomfortable like environment, like obviously this is not my place. It was a lot, yeah, uncomfortable, that's a good gremlin story, but we had fun that day.
Speaker 1:It's a job because I'm like it's like a. It's like a nice gremlin story yeah, like I said, she was worried. She was like do I have to like turn into another person? I'm like no, you just have to like listen, I have had my.
Speaker 2:My other gremlin story was where, like I actually turn into this, like you can tell that one if you want.
Speaker 1:Um, but yeah, I chose to go with that one yeah, I thought that was a good because that was the one I was like talking to you about when you said you know it doesn't always have to be like like a bad story, like a bad story, but I feel like most.
Speaker 2:I don't know when I think gremlin, I think like you turn to this like like crazy bitch like an evil evil, or like, yeah, like out of control, yeah, and. I was definitely like it was. It was, it was a nice demon for me. Yeah, yeah, I was an angel. You were a little angel floating around yes, yeah, angel, you're a little angel floating around. Yes, yeah, but that was fun that was a good time I'm telling you well, cheers to the good gremlin story story yes cheers to that cheers all right.
Speaker 1:Well, that's pretty much the end of the episode.
Speaker 2:Let's tell you, tell people where to find you you can find me at home with my cats, not physically, just kidding. All of my social medias are at MissLynneYe. That's M-I-S-S-L-I-N-Y-E-H. Yeah, if you, I guess, find me and you, I guess, like my content, yeah, follow. But yeah, I post, posted Instagram, ltk. You know TikTok and threads and someone I was posting on YouTube. Just just whatever you're comfortable like, whatever platform you like. I miss Linier and yeah, I'm there.
Speaker 1:There you go and then you can find the podcast yes At Emily to Gremily pod on Instagram and TikTok. You can also watch this episode Emily to Gremlin pod on YouTube. Every time I say it, it's always a mouthful. I was going to say you got to keep the same, the same username for everything.
Speaker 2:Everything's the same.
Speaker 1:It's just me saying it out loud I'm like I've become like mush mouth. Yeah, also, if you want to email us a gremlin story, if you need an advice, question, anything like that, you can email me emily to gremlin pod at gmailcom. Also, wherever you're listening, make sure to rate this podcast five stars. Apple podcast, spotify, iheart radio, listen notes.
Speaker 2:I keep going through all of them. I know it's like. It's like whatever you're comfortable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, whatever you like 5 stars, 5 stars, 5 stars. Alright, let's cheers out, cheers and thank you so much for coming. I love you. Episode 11 cheersies, cheers, bye.
