Emily to Gremily

When Your Soul Meets a Stranger, But Your Wedding Plans Fall Through

Emily Hogan

Have you ever planned your wedding to someone you just met? Created a Pinterest board for your fictitious future "van lyfe" with a guy you stopped talking to after one week? If so, you might be experiencing what Jay calls her "constant state of limerence," that magical, delusional period where you're convinced your souls have connected on a cosmic level.

In this champagne-fueled reunion, Emily and her bestie Jay dive headfirst into the whirlwind of instant attraction and fantasy futures. Between sips of champagne mojitos, they explore why some of us can't help but fall in love at first sight, only to crash back to reality when we finally see people for who they truly are. Jay's candid admissions about planning to live in a van with her latest crush will have you laughing in self-recognition.

The conversation takes several delightful detours through their unexpected celebrity crushes, from Matty Healy of The 1975 to Jack Schlossberg with his perfect "Kennedy swoop" hair, before diving into listener-submitted questions for "Gremlin Guidance." Their refreshingly direct advice includes the powerful reminder that "no is a full sentence" when setting boundaries in relationships.

But the true highlights come from the cringe-worthy "Gremlin Stories" submitted by brave listeners. From a bluetooth-enabled vibrating c**k ring that refused to release its grip, to a drunken fountain plunge that ended with a fake eyelash "floating away like a sad little boat," these tales of embarrassment remind us that we're all perfectly imperfect humans.

Whether you're currently in the throws of limerence or recovering from your last fantasy relationship, this episode offers equal parts comfort and laughter. And the next time you find yourself planning a wedding after one date just know you're in good company.

Need Gremlin Guidance? Have your own Gremlin story to share? Email us at EMILYTOGREMILYPOD@GMAIL.COM

Follow along on Instagram and TikTok @emilytogremilypod and watch full episodes on YouTube.

Speaker 1:

cheers welcome back.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for having me back oh, that's actually good round two round two.

Speaker 1:

She's back again. I I was able to book her from her very busy schedule. So booked and busy. So, booked and busy.

Speaker 2:

My people arranged it so I could be here. Her people called my people, we had them arrange it and I rescheduled some board meetings. All those conference calls, yeah, and then you know like Gaga Bus Club.

Speaker 1:

Another club, another club.

Speaker 2:

No sleep.

Speaker 1:

Do it again. So we're back with Jay Back again If you couldn't tell With the bestie Jay, and we have another champagne cocktail, because girl does champagne. Yeah, champagne is my favorite, so we did a champagne mojito which I don't know. I've been on like a mojito kick within the past like month or so I mean, I like champagne.

Speaker 2:

I haven't had ever had a champagne mojito, but this one's good. Yeah, it's refreshing.

Speaker 1:

I gave it to her and you could see like little itty bits of the mint leaves and she's like is this weed? I'm not mad if it is no I'm a proud uh gardener, 420 friendly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I wasn't mad and I was like well, you're like is this?

Speaker 1:

I ate it, and then she was like it's mint.

Speaker 2:

I was like, oh yeah, I taste that now.

Speaker 1:

Oh well, forget it, I don't care yeah.

Speaker 2:

But then I thought, wow, this would be good thc infused cocktail.

Speaker 1:

But she did say that and then I said I was worried we might not finish the podcast.

Speaker 2:

Wow, you don't frequent garden. You don't garden frequently. No, you don't frequent the garden garden frequently. I haven't.

Speaker 1:

I feel like, okay, it's been a while since I smoked weed, just because I don't like, I'm not like a smoker, that's not like my thing. But yeah.

Speaker 1:

Same. Yeah Right, but yeah, same. But I remember the last time I had an edible it was years ago. Those are different story. Oh my god, I remember I was my day off of work. So my boyfriend at the time we I had the day off of work. So we were like, all right, like let's do some, or like, or I don't know whatever the fuck you bought, eat an edible.

Speaker 2:

Eat an edible so. I had just like a.

Speaker 1:

Do some pot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah right, you want to do some pot, so I was.

Speaker 1:

I ate a little bit of it, not that much. And I was like laying on the bed and I thought I was like on a magic carpet, like I was fucking flying, but it wasn't fun, like I was upset. I was like on a magic carpet, like I was fucking flying, but it wasn't fun, like I was upset I was.

Speaker 2:

And then I ended up crying and I was like I don't want to be high anymore. So you turned into like an edible gremlin.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but like I remember the whole thing and I was just like sick, like it made me sick. And then the next day I had to go to work and I was wait at this place and I told one of the other waitresses I was like, hey, I'm gonna be useless today because I'm still high from the day before, and like I really need you to kind of like pick up my slack. Is that okay? And she was cracking up. She's like oh, I've been there before, don't worry, I got you.

Speaker 2:

And so I like basically got paid to just like stand in the corner and disassociate yeah, it was a terrible time that sounds fun to me, but yeah sometimes I mean eat edibles are different because it like you ingest them yeah so it just digests the chemicals differently, so it stays in your body, and so I thought I was gonna die yeah, do you?

Speaker 1:

remember hearing it was like years ago, it was like this off-duty police officer called 9-1-1 because he yes, I've read that recording yeah, he thought him and his wife thought that they were like overdosing. Yeah I was like eight weed bronies yeah, and I was like I I thought it was funny at the time and then after that experience, I was like I really, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2:

I've never had that experience. Like I wish I could. I mean not, but like I'm not encouraging that, but like no, they're. You know they do. It's a different vibe, but I prefer smoking.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's just, it's not my thing. Yeah, it's not for everyone.

Speaker 2:

That's fine. Like you're more of a drinker than I am, yeah, you like alcohol, more hard alcohol? I don't really. I'd rather choose weed over hard alcohol.

Speaker 1:

Like a shot. Yeah, exactly, oh god a shot?

Speaker 2:

no, no way, you don't want to. My mom has good advice. She said the shots are never a good idea, and she's not wrong it's my only idea and that's where the gremlin stories were born and that's how we got the podcast.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly well, speaking of gremlin-ing out. Yes, the very, very first time we attempted to film, and then I had an issue A gremlin night. I had a gremlin night, but it was too late for her to go home.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because she lives far. That's why booking her quote unquote is a challenge. Yeah, because she's far away.

Speaker 2:

In an undisclosed location yeah.

Speaker 1:

My secret lair. She was far so she had to go home. And it was far and she was just like I'm just going to stay in LA.

Speaker 2:

No, that's not what happened actually. Well, quite, Not quite Whatever. Well, close enough, but yeah no, we. I decided to stay up here because it was taking us a little longer to get through the episode and we hadn't planned on, and so I was like we're going to stay up here, I'll stay the night here and finish it. And then shit went down.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, shit went down, and I was like all right, well, I'm already up here.

Speaker 2:

It's too late because I take the train up. So I was like it's too late to take the train back. The train stopped running. So you're like I'm in LA, I'm in LA, let's just keep going, so I hit up my friend and then yeah, so I went out.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and that's where our first topic comes in, because the next day I was like texting her. I was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry, blah blah, she's like, don't worry about it. I, oh, you did. And then she started talking about this guy and he was so cute and they had like a soul connection or whatever the hell you said.

Speaker 2:

And then I thought I met like we, he seemed familiar, like our souls met before.

Speaker 1:

And I was like, oh, that's so cute and she's like at our wedding. You know I can thank you and you know, tell the story about how our drunken night turned into this. You know, love story at our wedding drunken night turned into this. You know, love story at our wedding blah, blah, blah. And then a week later I was like, oh, how is he? She's like oh, I'm not talking to him anymore.

Speaker 2:

Never mind.

Speaker 1:

Never mind, and I was like, oh okay. Well, I guess I don't get a thank you at the wedding, but whatever.

Speaker 2:

It was cute, but no, we're not. That that night means nothing now. No, it was fun. I mean, it was a fun night, I had a good time, so like it did stop in the blow and like we had fun, yeah, and you know, I was in love for like a week and then I shouldn't, as it usually does with my constant state of limerence she isn't.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that was what we wanted to talk about is her constant state of limerence. I don't do it on purpose no I, it's just your default yeah, you default setting you meet a guy and then I fall in love instantly yeah, and you plan the life together and then, um, you see them as people like who they like who they actually are and then you're like, oh, never mind well, like love bombing works on me because I'm like why wouldn't someone love me right away? Love.

Speaker 2:

Bombing works on everyone well, yeah, but like to me, I'm like it's not love bombing, like I see all the signs and the red flags and I'm like it's not love bombing. Like he loves me, he's like I'm amazing right but like no, that's delusion bitch no, that's delusion.

Speaker 2:

but in my head I'm like no, that's not a red flag. I'm colorblind, I don't see that. I don't see that, I don't see that. Nope, nope. But yeah, so I fall in love, like really quickly. I'm like, oh, everything's perfect. But in my defense, this one recent one was pretty like like so since that recording or that. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

That lost episode. This has happened to her at least like twice yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, two and a half.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say two, three times, and each time I'm like so excited to like hear the story.

Speaker 2:

And then Two out of the three, two of them got back with their exes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's yeah lovely yeah.

Speaker 2:

But the other one, the most recent one in my defense, like we had a lot in common.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, more than like before.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I felt like it was a little different, but I was planning on living in a van.

Speaker 1:

I was like you know what, how about you completely rearrange your fictional life for these people?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was like you know what, I will move to another state, yeah, and I don't care about this. But yeah, he wants to live in a van for a year and make content Cool, I'm down, sure. Oh my god, it sounded kind of fun it sounds.

Speaker 1:

That sounds terrible.

Speaker 2:

If some guy, if the, if the I already had a pinterest board in my dream crud, you had a pinterest board before I, like before he brought that up, like I had seen like one of my friends well, not friends like instagram friends yeah like took a cool sprinter, like a mercedes sprinter van and like built like a van in it and like lived out of it and he's like a dj and travels and like lives in there with his dog and so like I thought that was pretty cool and so I already had a pinterest board made for van life.

Speaker 2:

It just happened to come in handy, yeah, and I was like oh, actually I already have a couple board pins on my board on pinterest. Oh, my god van life, I spelled it with the y, o, y, f?

Speaker 1:

e don't know why don't know why did you make it in like? 2016 um 2017 okay, that's why I spelled it with a y and yeah, and you know, yeah, 2017, yeah enough said but um, yeah, that was pre pre-COVID. Pre-covid yeah.

Speaker 2:

But anyways, yeah, so it was not another love match, so we'll keep trying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But yeah.

Speaker 1:

Maybe the next one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

She'll check back in a couple of weeks. I'll let you know. Yeah, no, I don't worry.

Speaker 2:

I told her. I was like yeah, so start planning, because, like, we're going to elope in Vegas, because that's like my dream wedding. I don't want a wedding, I just want to go to Vegas, get married and like, have a sick ass dress and party responsibly. And then you know whoever wants to come, come. And then like we'll just make, have cool pictures and like there you go. Yeah, that's that.

Speaker 1:

So we're planning the wedding, we're just waiting for the groom.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I expect a hot young billionaire to show up at my door while I'm just staying inside. You're like I don't go anywhere on scroll on social media and I'm just hoping he shows up.

Speaker 1:

So if you're out there, didn't you kind of have like a limerence thing with the guy who kept delivering all your Taylor Swift merch? No, I just love him but he has no idea, I just love him because he delivers my merch. Oh, you don't like him, no, I just like. Is his name like Geraldo?

Speaker 2:

Geraldo, but no, I don't know what happened to him, but it doesn't show me their picture anymore. I just love him because he delivered the merch. I was like I didn't think he was hot oh okay, or like want him Meanwhile she's staring at the picture. No, I just like, was like oh, it's my guy, my guy yes, my guy Gerardo coming through. Yes, my merch guy, but he probably was like, so I always wondered if he was like. Damn, I have to go to this house again.

Speaker 2:

Or like yes, I get to go, or he had no thought about it, right? So I had a parasocial relationship with my UPS driver. I made up like a lot of scenarios. I had a lot of questions for him about his life, but I'll never know the answer. But, yeah, that's that. On that Till next time. Yeah, that was my love life pretty much in a nutshell.

Speaker 1:

So, and then we were wanting to talk about the first time, about, like, the hear me out, oh yeah, which I have talked about already. You guys already know my Lucius Malfoy hear me out, but she has a couple.

Speaker 2:

I have three. Well, one of them is not a hear me out, one of them I already know. And I gave her major side eye because I was like are you kidding me me, you gave me a side eye for all three of them well one of them, I figured it out.

Speaker 1:

One of them is not really a hear me out but the first one that I know you're gonna say I was like ugh gross.

Speaker 2:

I get it. Unfortunately hear me out, naughty Healy and I'm a huge Swifty. You know this so obviously. But, taylor, I get it.

Speaker 1:

I don't get it. I get it, I don't. I would not want that mouth touching me I don't know.

Speaker 2:

We could share a cigarette. We can share a cigarette.

Speaker 1:

Doesn't he pretend that he's like drunk or high on stage?

Speaker 2:

well, yeah, that's his whole thing. I'm not really in like a 1975 fan, except for one song which I have been obsessed with forever and I just like realized it was a 1975 song, the 1975 song.

Speaker 2:

But I don't really know how to go about saying that a the 1975 song whatever the band, yeah, the band, the 1975, whatever anyways, I didn't know it was their song and so I've been singing it for years, not knowing it was Maddie Healy this whole time. But yeah, that's my one, hear me out, but like I get it, but I don't know I could see why you wouldn't get that one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's understandable. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then I don't know if anyone's a Sleep Token fan, but Vessel from Sleep Token.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know who it was, but she did show me the video and I was, like you, get it Interesting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, in full.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's interesting because we don't know what his face looks like. Yeah, well, we're just yeah, and that's the body.

Speaker 2:

That's the whole thing with the sleep token lore. They don't want their identities revealed, they want to remain private. It's about the music. There's so much lore about them, them I could go into it for detail about it forever, but I won't bore you with it. And also I don't fully understand everything because I'm new to the fandom. But the lead singer, vessel, is my hear me out. They do paint themselves entirely like all black and so and then wear masks so you can't see their face. And then also their music is amazing.

Speaker 1:

So I'll make sure to post them in instagram stories so that you guys can see and then the last one.

Speaker 2:

That's not I hear me out at all, but andy black or andy beersack is his last name, but he's the lead singer of black veil brides is his last name, but he's the lead singer of black veil brides hot. Is that the guy you showed me with the? You said his eyes like glass this is perfect ocean eyes and this perfect glass, glass, ocean glass, blue ocean eyes, yeah yeah, I didn't think she was like looking at me like I'm crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's beautiful.

Speaker 2:

I can't like I would just get lost in his eyes talking to him. I wouldn't listen to a damn thing he said.

Speaker 1:

I'd be like okay yeah, I didn't think he was all that cute jail, immediate jail but you and I have like, like.

Speaker 2:

I have very different taste.

Speaker 1:

I have a very different taste and also if we lined up, like all my exes, it's there's no like type yeah well, if you I mean, I mean I could narrow it down, I mean my weakness yeah yeah then I have, like you know, but yeah, I think our difference, like the our taste difference in men, is um very different yeah, like it's far and wide, except for we do have one shared similar crush, which, unfortunately, he's kind of fallen off for me as well, but it's jack schlossberg the kennedy grandson he is was so fucking cute he's so hot he had the kennedy hair that you like want to run your fingers through and swoop. Yeah, he had a little swoopty swoop in the front and you just want to and he was like working as like a political correspondent for.

Speaker 1:

Vogue and he went to like the DNC. And it was like he was like super into like politics and then Trump won and I feel like he kind of lost it. Yeah, understandably.

Speaker 2:

Because they are. Who didn't they are. They are tarnishing his family's legacy. He's a Kennedy. He's the last living not last living, only living grandson of JFK.

Speaker 1:

So he's you know. He posts weird content, like on Instagram and TikTok.

Speaker 2:

And that's how we found him. Originally was TikTok, of course, because you know we already talked about TikTok a couple weeks ago. So, yeah, where else would I find anything Right? Maybe my husband's on TikTok.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, where else would I find anything? Right? Maybe my husband's on tiktok. So, yeah, we fell in love with him and we're like, oh my god, he's so cute. Oh my like, we love him. He's a little kooky, but you know we're all kooky.

Speaker 2:

And then he shaved his hair he like first he cut his hair and then he buzzed his hair and, and I have never been the same. No, Because before he wore like suits and like I don't know.

Speaker 1:

He looked like a Kennedy.

Speaker 2:

Or maybe we just had this idea of who he was and then we got to know him we were in limerence with him. We were in limerence with Jack Schlossberg. See, it's not my fault, it happened. It happened to the best of us, but yeah, he got a haircut and then lost it, but you can grow your hair back, jack, and I'm still there for you, she's dying to be Jacqueline Kennedy.

Speaker 1:

Hello, dying.

Speaker 2:

My name's Jacqueline. My middle name's Rose, which is, I believe, your sister's name, not that I looked it up or anything. Not that she's stalking you, Not that I know but I just know your family history because I'm well informed. Sorry for being cultured. Sorry for being cultured and knowing American history. Yeah, yeah, so my name can be Jacqueline Kennedy Schlossberg, jacqueline Rose Kennedy Schlossberg. Yeah, because who?

Speaker 1:

wouldn't want a partner with the same name as their grandma and sister. We're getting into some Freud shit right now Jacqueline Rose Kennedy Schlossberg.

Speaker 2:

So, Jack, you can't wink. But if you're watching on YouTube, Jack, which I know you are, she's already in limerence with you.

Speaker 1:

You should be in limerence with her. No.

Speaker 2:

I still love you and I do appreciate his take on social media because he acts outrageous and he says stuff and he acts crazy. But it does get our attention and it gets the people going.

Speaker 1:

It gets the conversation going.

Speaker 2:

He got me really excited about the election. He's getting young people excited about politics. He's like definitely made me more excited about politics. I'm like I want to go to the DNC, jack speaking. Why didn't I get tickets? But yeah, so he's doing good work. I just need him to grow his hair back so he can have that kennedy swoop and then hit me up there you go grow your hair out and hit her up on social media.

Speaker 2:

Yeah or yeah, I don't know where I'll show up at my house, but I'm sure you have connections, so so you can find me. Find me, anyways. Yeah, so that's our internet slash. Celeb crash of the week.

Speaker 1:

Yeah or not, I mean was Well, I think it's the only person you and I have ever agreed on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's true, because everyone else, we have very different tastes. Yeah, I would say. You like face tattoos and troubled people and yeah, and I like I used to qualify for aarp, yeah, yeah, and have a life alert around their neck. You wouldn't know that. Do you get the?

Speaker 1:

subscription. No, you know what's crazy is my boyfriend because you know he's of older age, he's 33. Oh, don't get me started, but he is. He keeps. He's a member of AAA and he keeps getting these notification or not, like. He keeps getting like envelopes and mail delivered to the house and it's constantly for life insurance, to the point where he thinks I'm signing him up to get these and he's like are you?

Speaker 2:

gonna off me. You guys have been watching too many true crime shows.

Speaker 1:

100 and I'm like it was a joke at first, and now he literally gets them every single week and I think he really thinks like you're and I'm like no, I'm like they just want like your money and your business, like this isn't my fault, like triple a is just like after you dude, and he's like yeah he's like oh well, maybe.

Speaker 2:

I mean if, once you hit a certain age, they just start mailing. You get on the list and they start mailing you stuff, I guess. So yeah, it's all targeted marketing, which we learn about in school. There you go. It's not as creepy as it sounds.

Speaker 1:

It's not my fault.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a little creepy, but it's just your demographic, right? Just tell them Just your demographic. You're getting in that age bracket and they're going to start targeting you for these sort of things. Age bracket and they're going to start targeting you for these sort of things. Absolutely Not my fault here. Next comes the walkers.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so I put it out there all the time, like if you guys need advice, like advice on anything like going on in your life, to hit me up. And I came up with a little name for it. I called it Gremlin Guidance. If you guys have a better name for it, let me me know. I just liked it, like for the alliteration, the gremlin guidance gg gg all right, so I have two that I pulled from the first.

Speaker 2:

Both are anonymous, actually okay, I haven't heard these, so I'm getting my like live reaction yeah, her spontaneous reaction. And spontaneous advice.

Speaker 1:

All right. So the first one says it's kind of sad.

Speaker 2:

Oh.

Speaker 1:

So basically I'm not a good person. I cheated on my husband and he found out. That was three months ago and now we are attempting to rebuild our relationship. We had been distant for months before and I suppose I was lonely. It's not an excuse, just a fact. I'm wondering what I can do to basically fix my marriage. I know it's kind of unfair to ask you, but I'm at a loss. Any advice?

Speaker 2:

all right. Well, um, if you're working it out with him, then he's choosing to like stick it out. So either he has to like I'm not going to bring this up and we're going to move forward, yeah, like move past it. Yeah, because there's no way around it, but like I don't know, it's hard to come back from that. That's kind of my like deal breakers Like I'll put up with a lot, but like once somebody cheats it's hard because you're doing at all times.

Speaker 2:

But also you have to ask yourself, like why did you do it? Because there's obviously a reason. So if you were happy, then maybe it's best that you don't yeah, work it out, but I'm not married, I'm single. So I don't know. But if you're gonna like cheat, then it's. You're not in a relationship anymore. You're over it, you're out.

Speaker 2:

You have one foot out the door for sure, so you can try to work it out. But you both have to be like super open, communicate and like lay it all out on the table and if you're both on the same page after all, that then move forward.

Speaker 1:

But it's really hard to do, yeah yeah, I would say I think you guys need to go to therapy. That would. I don't mean that in a bad way either. You're like therapy, no, but I mean you need therapy I mean, look, we all at the end of the day, we all need therapy I'm in therapy. Therapy is great I decided to start this podcast instead of finding a therapist, because I don't know. Let's just work out my problems with all of you but yeah, that's a good, that's good advice.

Speaker 2:

Definitely see a professional help.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think marriage counseling would probably be like the best bet yeah because, yeah, if you're, if someone's going to choose to stay with you after you cheat yeah, then that's accepting what has happened and, yeah, moving on. Like you can't bring, you can't keep bringing it up was it like?

Speaker 2:

does it say it was physical cheating or emotional cheating?

Speaker 1:

or does it say it.

Speaker 2:

Just, I mean, I'm not that it matters, like it does matter, but like yeah, I mean, yeah, it just says I.

Speaker 1:

Just it just says I cheated on my husband. But I mean, I'm assuming it's physical, based on kind of the way she's talking I mean at that point, I would I mean yeah, like you cheated on your husband so you don't I mean want to be with them.

Speaker 2:

So like go be with the guy you want to be with.

Speaker 1:

Life is short or maybe she doesn't even want to be with that guy. Maybe it's just you want out of your marriage.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, maybe you have to look inward. I would go to therapy on your own and then couples therapy if you're going to work it out. But either way, therapy. Seek professional help in the nicest, most respectful way possible, like.

Speaker 1:

Because if you're cheating, you're obviously not happy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Not to you know, brag, but I have in the past cheated before and it's because I was really unhappy in the relationship.

Speaker 2:

No one who cheats is.

Speaker 1:

I mean.

Speaker 2:

I don't know from a guy's perspective, from a girl's perspective, right yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like it's, you're seeking validation elsewhere because you're not happy with what's happening at home.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so because you're not happy with what's happening at home? Yeah so, and I've been cheated on multiple times. So it's hard to come back from that and like forgive the person. So but if I don't know how like you and your husband are, but just communicate and get therapy yeah, and maybe this is not meant to be yeah, but if it is like you can work it out and like if it really is meant to be, then you guys will work it out.

Speaker 1:

Right. And yeah, all right. The next one is very short.

Speaker 2:

OK.

Speaker 1:

But I grabbed it. So I was like let's see, because I wouldn't know how to answer this on my own. My partner asked me to do something I'm not comfortable with in the bedroom. How do I tell him no?

Speaker 2:

No period.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no is comfortable with in the bedroom.

Speaker 2:

How do I tell him no, no, period, yeah, no is a full sentence and just say I'm not comfortable with that?

Speaker 1:

I also feel like if, like you, should be comfortable to tell your partner like no, I don't want to do that like. I don't like that, no, and you shouldn't really have to explain yourself all too much.

Speaker 2:

You don't have to explain why you're uncomfortable with it also she never said what it was.

Speaker 1:

I, you don't have to. My nosy ass wants to know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I want to know, but at the same time, like there's definitely, I have like definite no's, I'm not doing that ever. Like there's no like what's the word? Like no, non-negotiables. Like no, that's absolutely not happening. So, like I would just be like yeah, and if you don't like it, like that's my boundary and you have to respect it.

Speaker 2:

For sure, and respect me and like if it's only fun if both people are enjoying it For sure, and like want to be doing it also. So just maybe pose it that way and just be like listen, I don't think I would have fun doing it and it would be weird because I'm not enjoying it. It's like then we're both just not enjoying an obligation and I, yeah, exactly, just like pose it that way, and maybe be, like listen, I don't want to do this and it's not gonna be fun for me and I'm uncomfortable.

Speaker 2:

But also, no is a full sentence for sure and you don't have to give an explanation, just like no, I'm not doing that and I don't want to, and if he's like a decent partner, then he'll respect the boundary and then if not. Then you'll see their true colors and know like, once they show their true colors, that's, you know, once they show their true colors, believe them. So, however he reacts, you'll know where to go from there that will kind of be.

Speaker 1:

His reaction will kind of be your answer, I think yeah, like if he's just like drops and it's like, okay, yeah, no worries, yeah, be like we could try and maybe like offer some other stuff that you are comfortable doing, that like you would be into yeah, like you don't ever want to like kink, shame someone. No like don't make them feel bad about it, but be like I personally. That's not my thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, be like for me. I don't want to do that and it's not for me.

Speaker 1:

It's not a negotiable, you know like offer things that maybe like you're into, and then if you compromise, if you want, or you could just straight up be like no, yeah, exactly like I said.

Speaker 2:

No, it's a full sentence, definitely, but I like that.

Speaker 1:

Good, no is a full sentence I'm gonna start saying that from now on yeah, it is, I don't know where I'm gonna say it, but I'm gonna start saying that from now on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what am I gonna say no to all right, and I pulled gremlin stories.

Speaker 1:

I'm excited.

Speaker 2:

I love gremlin stories, all right.

Speaker 1:

I pulled. I think I pulled three. Let me peek yes, I pulled three, and we have a bunch of brave souls. All of them were signed.

Speaker 2:

Oh.

Speaker 1:

Tee hee.

Speaker 2:

Bravo All right.

Speaker 1:

So the first one is from Sophie. Oh, she says oh, actually, I remember this one now. Sophie, she says oh actually, I remember this one now. Okay, so here's the story of how a sex toy almost ruined my relationship, or at least our dignity. Oh, it was a Friday night and my boyfriend and I decided to try something new after having a few bottles of wine. We've been together for a while and the sex sex was great. But I had this brilliant idea to bring a little toy I had read about into the bedroom. Not just any toy a vibrating cock ring. Supposedly amazing for both partners, it even had bluetooth, bluetooth, bluetooth, what? Okay, so we get it out of the box.

Speaker 1:

That's the most shocking part of this, sorry download the app okay and we're already kind of giggling about how quote-unquote futuristic our sex life has become yeah, I would.

Speaker 1:

That's pretty funny he puts it on and we're fumbling around with the settings like we're trying to launch a rocket. There are vibration levels, patterns and intensity sliders. We start messing around and everything is great at first. I'm in control with the app, teasing him, turning it up and down, and he's loving it, until he starts to tense up hey, he said kind of laughing, but also not. It's getting kind of tight. Oh my God.

Speaker 1:

I look down and realize I accidentally activated this pulsing constriction mode on the app. The ring is vibrating and tightening rhythmically, which sounds sexy in theory, until you see your boyfriend staring at it in total fear. I tried to turn it off, but I had no idea what I even pressed to make it do that. He's starting to panic and honestly, so am I. I guess I can't. He's flopping around like he's trying to shake it off, but the thing is hanging on for dear life. I, I go to pull it, but it's kind of stuck. We're both naked, frantically wrestling with this demon ring that refuses to let go. I finally run to the kitchen to get coconut oil and after what seemed like years, we finally got it off. Safe to say, we haven't used it since.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, understandably, that's really funny. I don't used it since yeah, understandably, that's really funny I don't have any story. That's an original experience, I think.

Speaker 1:

Or maybe not. Okay, no kind of yes and no. When I was like 20, I felt, like you know, being adventurous and frisky. And it wasn't, it was a vibrating one. And when I gave it to the guy, I was like and I'm like, by the way, again 20, super inexperienced I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. He was like did you get lube too? And I was like, no, I didn't. And he was like, hmm, okay, so he put it on, but then he couldn't get it off, like we didn't even use it. He couldn't get it off because it was like this silicone rubbery material that was like really uncomfortable and I was like I don't know what to do with this. Like, should we cut it off? He's like you're going to put scissors near me.

Speaker 1:

And I was like I don't know Not a bad idea, so he had to get in the shower and use soap to get it off.

Speaker 2:

Oh, wow.

Speaker 1:

So I got no use out of it. And since then, I've never used a sex toy ever.

Speaker 2:

Which, according to, Sophie, apparently she did it Understandably. Those are horror stories.

Speaker 1:

Horror stories Horror. I didn't say horror, horror Not horror Not, yeah, horror Horror stories.

Speaker 2:

I want to make that very clear. I'm not calling anyone a horror.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

Horror stories.

Speaker 1:

Horror.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, wow. All right, okay, no horror stories. Yeah, wow. Okay, that was a real, not a roller coaster, but like that was quite a great gremlin right all right thanks for sophie. That was a great story thank you, sophie. You're brave and our next brave and your boyfriend or husband or whoever that was.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she said it was her boyfriend. Poor guy, I'm scared, all right. Next one is noelle. She says it was her boyfriend. Poor guy, I'm scared, all right. Next one is Noel. She says it was supposed to be a classy night. We were all dressed up heels, lashes, tight dresses and ready to celebrate Jess's birthday with bottomless sangrias and bad decisions. By the third round of drinks I was already loudly insisting I wasn't even tipsy, which is usually the clearest sign I am absolutely wasted.

Speaker 1:

After dinner we walked through the downtown plaza pretending we were in some European rom-com. Everything felt magical Twinkle lights, the soft buzz of alcohol and the sound of our obnoxious laughter echoing off buildings. Then we passed the fountain. It was one of those dramatic, tiered ones, glowing blue under the light. I don't know whose idea it was, but someone dared me to do a dramatic model, walk around the edge of the fountain and, because I have the self-control of a toddler when I'm drunk, I took my heels off, handed them to my friend, like I was about to win America's next top model, and climbed up. I actually started strong. I was striking poses, throwing peace signs, blowing kisses at imaginary paparazzi. Then I did a spin, which would have been great, except I misjudged the turn and my bare foot hit a slick patch of algae or something and the next thing I knew splash.

Speaker 1:

I fully, completely fell in the fountain. My dress is soaked, my hair is ruined. I came up gasping like I had just escaped the Titanic. Love it. One of my fake lashes floated away like a sad little boat. My friends were crying, laughing, phones out, zero sympathy. Jess posted it on her instagram story with the caption ariel who, to this day, anytime we go near a fountain, someone says feel like taking a swim and I consider switching friend groups. Lol.

Speaker 2:

best noel that's a good one. That is a good one.

Speaker 1:

I don't have a story for that one, I don't.

Speaker 2:

That's very like a la michael scott yeah, I don't have quite a story about falling in a fountain, but I have a funny story about I was in vegas with my friend and it involves the bellagio fountain. But, um, yeah, my friend lived out there. I won't name his name but, for privacy reasons but protect the innocent yeah, but we were um at one of the casinos and you know, when you're playing blackjack, they give you, or whatever, drinks for free. Yeah, and I was like I can barely count like regularly.

Speaker 1:

So I'm like having him count for me.

Speaker 2:

Like what is this number? I'm like counting on my hands playing blackjack and like we're winning, of course, because we're like, and we're just kept getting more and more drunk. And then he like tilted back in his chair but we kept winning and then he fell out of his chair. So once you fall in Vegas, they're like you're out of here, you're done. And so they were like you know, of course we're getting kicked out and we're like we were leaving anyways.

Speaker 2:

And then we get to the Bellagio Fountain and my friend got a little too drunk and threw up in the Bellagio fountain.

Speaker 1:

I thought you were going to say he climbed in it.

Speaker 2:

No, he kind of climbed in it to throw up in it, but it was like on the side and yeah, but that was, I didn't get in it or throw up in it, but he did. So that's my fountain story. I don't have a fountain story.

Speaker 1:

I just thought it was funny.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's the only fountain. There you go.

Speaker 1:

I've partied fountain party story that involves a lot of people that have a bellagio fountain story yeah, for sure for sure. All right. The last one is from kate, which I remember. This one, this one's funny. She says I don't even know where to start because I'm still cringing when I think about it. My boyfriend Jake and I, oh damn.

Speaker 2:

Name drop your boyfriend, this poor guy.

Speaker 1:

No, protecting this innocent my boyfriend, jake.

Speaker 2:

I'm a drive-by.

Speaker 1:

My boyfriend Jake and I had just left this late night drive-in movie.

Speaker 2:

We didn't want to Drive-in, right, I know it must be like midwesty, I was gonna um, what I was gonna say?

Speaker 1:

yeah, we didn't want the romance to end. When the movie did, though, we parked in the back corner of the lot under a broken light, thinking we were being all stealthy and spontaneous. One thing led to another and, well you know, the windows started fogging up Think Titanic. I love that this audience has learned about my love of Titanic that I've never seen.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's my one gripe with you, I swear. The windows started fogging up Think Titanic. His jeans were somewhere in the back seat and I was straggling him in the front like we were in some steamy movie montage. It was all fun and thrill and heavy breathing until bam, bam, bam. I swear I almost died. Right there, a flashlight blasted through the foggy window and a voice yelled what's going on in there? It was a security guard, an actual uniformed middle-aged man with a walkie-talkie and everything. Jake screamed, I screamed and I fell halfway into the floorboard trying to grab my bra, while also trying to disappear off the face of the earth. Jake scrambled to get his pants on. The guy just stood there, clearly not impressed, and told us we had exactly two minutes to quote clean up our little situation and get off the property.

Speaker 2:

At least he was cool about it To this day.

Speaker 1:

Every time we pass that drive-in we both get this haunted look in our eyes like we've seen some stuff. Never again, kate.

Speaker 2:

That's definitely a good one, that's a good one.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I feel like Everyone has that story. I mean, I don't, I've never got.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I've never gotten caught. Oh, awkward.

Speaker 1:

I'm like everyone has one of those stories. I mean like car, yes, gotten caught no. Have you?

Speaker 2:

Oh no by police or by people All in the above Police or citizens, Never by citizens. No, Never by citizens. I was security guard, police or once was at Disneyland parking lot.

Speaker 1:

That's risky. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I mean, I feel like I've, but it was just like you know, like making out in the car, Like it's like not like full blown doing anything crazy in there.

Speaker 2:

It's just like I don't know, you're in high school, so you don't have anywhere to go. Yeah, you can't have anywhere to go yeah, so we're like at disneyland, because we would go there like to hang out, because we had season passes and he was my boyfriend, so we're just like making out in the car and then we get in trouble.

Speaker 1:

They can chill with that. It's just a kid, but I heard.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if this is true or not, but I've heard that, obviously for obvious reasons. I mean, it makes sense, but if you get caught like having sex in disneyland, you banned for life.

Speaker 1:

Because there's children around.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, for a number of reasons but like banned for life is crazy, but like I get it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Obviously, but like.

Speaker 1:

If anyone has ever gotten banned from Disneyland, like my friend Spice, who was on the podcast remember she had her pass revoked for 30 days because she punched that dude Understandable. They didn't like that apparently. I'm surprised it was only like suspended and not I. Yeah, I mean, she got lucky. I think they realized how drunk both of them were.

Speaker 2:

So they were like yeah just whatever.

Speaker 1:

But but she, it was just her past that was revoked. She was able to buy, they were going oh yeah, tickets she. He just bought her a ticket and they just went in yeah, because they don't check your like id, right, yeah so yeah, if anyone has any band from disneyland stories to tell, yeah send those in and um. Also, I love kate for name dropping her boyfriend yeah, kate and jake, that's funny if you know what kate and the jake. At first I was like this story in person.

Speaker 2:

This sounds like the plot of greece summer, loving in your car at the drive-in. I was like are you gonna break into? Song, but no I know, yeah, and then, yeah, I think I thought everyone had one of those stories. Similar thing happened to me at the irvine spectrum. Oh my god, the security guard came. He wrote up like some card or something and like was gonna call our parents oh my god, it was the same boyfriend like high school boyfriend jeez, you're just going around town with this dude.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean, we were in high school he had a car.

Speaker 2:

What were we going to do? Yeah, but we never, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've never gotten caught. I've had close calls where we had to like hunker down and be like like look around, but usually like people just pass by.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But I was able to find, like, why am I bragging? I was able to find really like dark streets that no one went down, which that sounds like so that's such a weird good idea, great idea good for you, I'm great you knew all the spots, yeah yeah, it makes me sound like a slut. Yeah, we can just cut this whole part out. It's fine, I'll leave it cut this whole part out. All right. Well, that's our episode.

Speaker 2:

We did it.

Speaker 1:

We did it. You want to tell your socials.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it is at J Rose. Well, at four underscores. J Rose on TikTok and Instagram. Yeah, so at one, two, three, four J-A-Y-R-O-S-E.

Speaker 1:

There you go. Yeah, and make sure to follow her on Instagram and TikTok. We're trying to build TikTok, yes, so help us Make sure to. I go live on TikTok sometimes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she likes to do live.

Speaker 1:

She posts way more content than I do.

Speaker 2:

She's much more fun to look at. Barely, I barely post content.

Speaker 1:

I try, I try, we're trying. Here we're going to go viral.

Speaker 2:

Cheers to going viral. Cheers to going viral. Thanks for having me again.

Speaker 1:

Of course, and then you have to make sure to follow the podcast Emily to Gremlin Pod on Instagram and TikTok. If you have your own gremlin stories or need gremlin guidance, email me at emilytogremleypod at gmailcom. Also, if you want to watch this episode, emily to gramily pod on youtube, make sure to like, follow, share, subscribe. Do all the things make it happen for us, and she finished her drink so cheers to you, cheers to me, cheers to the podcast. Cheers to kate and jake. Yes and bye and bye, bye.

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