Emily to Gremily

What We Carry: Discipline, Loss, And The Lines We Won’t Cross

• Emily Hogan

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A burnt tongue, Nana’s mug, and a late start to 75 Hard set the tone for a raw, honest ride that moves from discipline to empathy to unflinching truth. I share why I pushed my kickoff a few days, the uphill walk that humbled me on the way to Trader Joe’s, and how filming daily vlogs while running this show is its own endurance sport. No cocktails for a while, just tea, home-cooked meals, water by the gallon, and Pilates that left me gasping. It’s not pretty, but it’s progress you can feel.

Then we dive into Gremlin territory. First up: a Halloween disaster in a club booth that ends with a friend’s purse mistaken for a wastebasket. We talk accountability without spectacle: when to confess, when to repair, and how to make it right without re-injuring someone you care about. From there, the tone shifts darker. A listener discovers her “friends” engineered a cheating plot and used her as bait. We unravel why this kind of performative cruelty thrives, why boundaries are non-negotiable, and how walking away is sometimes the bravest move you can make.

The closing stretch holds steady space for grief. A longtime listener asks how to live when “your person” is gone. I offer what I wish I’d done sooner: don’t numb, do seek help, build small rituals that honor love, and accept that seasons like December can sting. Finally, I respond to a message from Liverpool about safety and power in the U.S. I’m not a political analyst, but I won’t pretend fear doesn’t live in our bodies. We name what feels dangerous, hold each other close, and commit to speaking plainly while we can.

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Okay, cheers, guys. Fucking hot. Okay, hi. All right, Emily, Emily to Grammy here with another solo episode. And I just burned the crap out of my mouth right now. Okay, I want to welcome back all returning listeners. And if this is your first time listening, welcome. Thank you for tuning in. That was a chaotic start. I'm sorry. Um, episode drink of the week. I have started 75 hard, so we're not gonna be doing cocktails for I don't know how many weeks, but until April, basically. So I made myself a ginger and dandelion tea. I know, guys. I'm basically like the pinnacle of health. And the if you're watching on YouTube, yes, this is a mug with a picture of my baby face on it. See? Wasn't I so cute? What happened? Actually, I kind of look like a little old lady. But I didn't make this like for myself. I'm not that conceited. Um, it used to be my Nana's cup, and then when she passed, I took it because I don't know. I thought I looked kind of cute. Anyway, um, but ginger and dandelion tea that is hot, so we will let that cool. I thought I let it cool enough already, but alas, I did not. Okay, so I wanted to kind of give a little start. I'm not gonna be starting every single episode like this from now on. I just want to do like a really quick like update almost of what happened with me starting 75 Hard. After this, you won't hear about it until I end it or, you know, unless something like amazing happens or terrible happens. But I wanted to tell you guys, so I had said last week that I was going to be starting on Monday. And I I didn't. I started on Thursday, January 15th. So I will now be ending Tuesday, March 31st, which will be in perfect timing for the one-year anniversary of the podcast. So, you know, April 1st hits, and it'll be turn up. We can all rage. And I had to start a few days late due to how can I put this? Lady troubles. If you don't know what that means, then just move on. Um, so yeah, I started it Thursday, January 15th. It's not as neat and tight and wrapped in a bow as I like it to be, but you know, it's okay. And I the first day of my workout, I decided I was gonna walk to Trader Joe's, my local Trader Joe's. And I've done that walk before. I haven't done it in a while, but I was gonna do a 45-minute walk outside because you have to do one 45-minute workout outside. So I was like, that can be my workout. And I was like, I'm gonna take the long way. So it's like a full 45 minutes, and I didn't include the 45 minutes that I was walking around Trader Joe's. Um, I didn't realize that the hill, because I have to go uphill to get to Trader Joe's. I didn't realize that the hill I was walking on was much steeper than the one I usually walk on. I thought I was gonna like pass out. I was sucking in air so hard. And then I was trying to take videos of myself so I could make a daily vlog of 75 Hard. So, first off, I can't breathe. Second off, I'm so embarrassed to be taking footage of myself just like in public. And then third, it I I looked like I was gonna die, like or I sounded like I was gonna pass out. Luckily, I turned the sound off and then I did a voiceover for the TikTok. It was I was I was struggling, guys. I didn't realize I was that out of shape. I mean, I knew I hadn't worked out in a while, but man, that was humbling. And then I've been doing my second workout, it's an at-home workout using these YouTube videos, and the creator is move with Nicole or Move by Nicole. I'm not 100%, but anyway, I found her on TikTok. She has like this banging body, and she lives in like Thailand, and it there's just these beautiful videos, and I was like, oh, that I can do that. That sounds fun. Um, she's a fucking badass, and she kicked my ass um both days. And yeah, so if I don't look like her at the end of this, I am going to, I don't know, sue someone. I don't know who, but yeah, hopefully my goal is to look like her. And you guys should look her up and you can see what I'm talking about, and then you'll see why I want to be her, basically. So yeah, I said I was gonna do daily vlogs. I am doing them. I didn't realize how hard it was. Like I knew like creating content is a task. I when I first started, like a year ago, I didn't realize how big of a task it was. Now that I'm doing the podcast, that's a whole new beast. But filming daily vlogs, I know I'll get used to it and it'll be it'll become like easy to me just like creating the podcast is now. But it's so much different, like it's such a different style and technique than this podcast is that I wasn't used to, and I'm using a different software than I'm used to. So the first video I put up, it's not like it's like this fantastic video. It took me, I'm not even gonna tell you how long it took me. It took me a while, and then I was like YouTubing tutorials on like how to add a text because I couldn't fucking figure it out like a grandma. It was, um it's so embarrassing. I can't stand myself, but I'm figuring it out. Hopefully it'll become easier and the footage will become better. Just everyone fingers crossed, and yeah, that's pretty much it. Um, yeah, I'm sticking with the rules I made for myself, which were all home cooked meals, and so no takeout, no alcohol, which yesterday I kind of wanted to have a drink. Not because I was like, you know, having a moment. I was just like trying to put together like a bunch of stuff. I had a ton of work to do, and I was like, ugh, I just want a martini. But I didn't make one. I don't even have anything to make one with, actually. So bummer. Um, but yeah, so no alcohol, two 45-minute workouts Monday through Friday. One workout Saturday and Sunday is my workout rest day. Also, the YouTube videos, the move by Nicole or Move with Nicole, not all of them are 45 minutes, but I feel like I'm dying just doing like a 30-minute one. So I'm gonna give myself a little bit of grace and hopefully, you know, in a couple weeks I'll have some stamina and I can find the 45-minute versions of her workouts. Let's just take it one day at a time. Drinking a gallon of water, I am doing that. I have my big old cup. If you're watching on YouTube, you can see. So I have to drink three of these a day. And I thought it wasn't gonna be that big of a deal because I drink water exclusively, with the exception of Celsius Alani or alcohol. But it's kind of a task. I didn't realize how much a gallon is, and I do drink a lot of water, I just don't drink a gallon of water a day. So it's been a little more challenging than I thought, but I mean, I it's not the worst thing I could do for myself. And then instead of reading the 10 pages of a nonfiction book, I said I was gonna replace Doom Scrolling with productive work, such as working on this podcast and content creation. I don't have time to do anything else except this right now because I'm like, I feel a little frazzled like with trying to do TikTok and the podcast. I know it's just because it's the first week and I'm trying to get like the hang of it. But right now I'm struggling. I'm hoping when next week comes, I'll be able to just like, you know, get the hang of it and, you know, make my vlogs and do all my work for the podcast. Right now, I'm just, you know, I'm easing myself into it. I don't know. I'm trying to give myself grace. And then taking a progress picture every single day. I said I wasn't gonna do that. I'm gonna do it every Monday. Um, so yeah. And that's pretty much it for 75 Hard ish. Like I said, I'm not gonna keep updating you guys on this every single week. I just wanted to tell you guys that I did do it. And I did think about not starting it until next week because I wanted to start on a Monday, but I couldn't do that because I couldn't come on this podcast and be like, oh yeah, by the way, I didn't start it. Cause like, get your shit together, lady. So I started it. I'll let you guys know if something amazing happens, terrible happens, or you won't hear about it until April. And that's pretty much it for that. Um, hopefully my tea is cooler now. Okay, much better. Actually, I was supposed to add lemon juice to my tea, and I didn't. That was a mistake. I will do that tomorrow. Okay, so for the rest of the episode, I have one gremlin story. Actually, I'm gonna do this a little out of order, but there is a method to my madness. I'm gonna do one Gremlin story, one Gremlin gossip, and the last segment is going to be Gremlin Guidance, which I have two guidances. I decided to put them out of order, which honestly kind of bothers me a little bit, but I put them out of order just because of what was being talked about in the guidance. I felt like it should be a kind of an end-of-the-pisode subject. So, with that, let's see. We'll start with the Gremlin story. And Gremlin's story is anonymous. And anonymous says, this 100% has to stay anonymous, but I did something so terrible, and now I can't say anything because too much time has passed. I went out with my girlfriends for Halloween this past year, and we love to drink and party, so we are raging at a club with bottle service and a booth. At some point in the night, I remember needing to vomit, and I did so in a small waste paper basket. I felt better and the night went on. The next morning we wake up at my friend's house, all hung over. One of my friends was upset about something, and I asked what happened. She says, You don't remember? Someone threw up in my purse last night and then just put it back down. I picked it up to get my lip gloss and put my hand in a puddle of puke. And that's when it hit me. It was me. There was no waste paper basket, it was her purse that I threw up into and then went back to dancing. I guess I knew what was coming and still. I contemplated telling her, but instead said, wow, that's crazy. And now it's been months later, and I can't say anything now. I'm not sure if she'd laugh it off or be really mad at me. Also, please don't use this clip for social media because she might see it and put two and two together. Okay, thanks. Bye. Anonymous. Oh my god. Um, yeah, I was always because I always skim my email like real quick before I read the whole thing. And I I saw waste, I saw club bottle service and then waste paper basket. And I was like, why would there be like a little waste paper basket in the club? Like, how odd. And then I read the whole thing and I was like, uh, yeah. Girl, yeah, okay. I, you know, I usually try, well, not usually, it hasn't happened recently, but you know, if I have a story that I can tell of my own that I can like relate to the story, I will tell my version of what happened to me. I don't I don't have anything for this. I've never thrown up in someone's purse before. And no one's thrown up in mine, thank God. I did one time see this girl at a club who she was getting kicked out because she was like really drunk and disorderly. And I don't know what she thought she was where she thought she was. I don't know what happened, but I was like looking over at her and she was trying to like as if she was putting on her pants, but it was her purse. Like she kept stepping into her purse, and security finally just like kind of picked her up and baby doll carried her away. Um, I've seen that, but I'm yeah, this is hopefully a unique experience. I'm sure there's somebody else out there though that has either done this or had it done to them. Okay, also I won't use this clip for social media. I'll use something else. I don't know if she would think it's funny. I don't know what kind of girl she is. I don't know if if she would laugh at that. Also, how expensive was the purse? Like maybe if you want to clear your conscience, you could you could like buy her a new purse and then and a lip gloss and say, hey, like I'm so sorry. Like I was afraid to tell you this this is to replace what I ruined. You could do that, but I don't know if you want to. You might want just want to take this one to the grave. Yeah, that's it. That's all I got. Um, so anonymous, no worries. Your secret is safe with me. It won't be on social media, but you do know this is going out into the world and on YouTube. So hopefully she doesn't see it or hear it. Okay, and the next one is Gremlin Gossip. And Gremlin Gossip is also anonymous. It wasn't signed, it didn't say keep me anonymous, it just was unsigned. So I'm taking that as they want to stay anonymous. And this one bothered me too. All right. Anonymous says, I have a gossip that is kind of sad. I moved to a new city for grad school and didn't know anyone yet. I had made a couple of friends in class and was invited to go out for drinks with them on a Saturday night. I was a little reluctant to go, but it had been months since I had gone out and I really wanted to make friends, so I forced myself to attend. While at the local bar, one of the girls said her boyfriend was going to come by soon. When he arrived, he brought two of his friends. The six of us mingled for about an hour, and I was becoming friendly with one of the friends. When us girls went to the bathroom, they both commented on how flirty he was being with me and we looked cute together. The night ends and we all go our separate ways. Over the next few months, I became closer with the girls and would go out with them, sometimes for just a girls' night, and other times accompanied with the three guys. One Saturday while working on a paper, I receive a text from one of the girls begging me to come out with the group tonight because the friend was asking about me and tonight could be the night. I was overcome with butterflies and was nervous, excited. I put an effort into how I looked and went out hopeful. Sure enough, we all meet up and the guy and I are glued together at the hip all night. At the end of the night, we were left alone, on purpose, I might add, and I decided to take the chance and invite him to my apartment. He agrees, we go back, do the do, and the next morning wake up happy. When he's leaving, he gives me his number and says he works weird hours, so if I don't hear from him right away, don't worry, and not to call him, just text. I found it a tad bit odd, but didn't think much on it. At our next class, the girls are prying, asking what happened. So I told them. They are both so giddy and say, OMG, finally. I say, finally what? That's when they spill the beans on what they call their quote unquote brilliant plan. They tell me that this guy has a girlfriend that they completely despise and that they came up with the plan to get him to cheat on her. They said I was exactly his type, so they knew he would fall for it, and they were so happy he did. I immediately felt sick and embarrassed. I asked why they would do that to me, and they kept reassuring me that I shouldn't feel bad because I was unaware of everything, so I'm innocent, and the girlfriend was literally Satan. When I pushed back further and told them they were acting like mean high school girls, they quipped back saying to take it as a compliment because I'm hot. I've never dealt with such childish behavior before. We were in a prestigious graduates program for God's sakes. I refused to talk with them ever again and I blocked the guy's number. I was so humiliated, but the more time passes, now I just feel sorry for those girls because their lives must be so miserable to be consumed by such hatred. Sorry, I know this was long, but this felt like a safe space to tell this story, and I know that the Gremlin family would be too cool to ever think of doing something like this. Anonymous. This made me so sad for you. I'm horrified that this happened. I d I I will never understand people that act like this. It's it's worse than acting like a high school high school girl. I I've never known anyone to be like this. I mean, and I've met some like terrible people, but this like to set up someone to befriend someone just for the sake of like this master plan to get back at this girl that they despise. This is like some like cruel intention shit right there. I I don't know, when I read that, I was like, I was upset for you, and I'm so sorry this happened. And the fact that you were a complete innocent bystander in this, and they set you up, they set this guy up. The guy's not that great because he cheated on his girlfriend, and that sucks that he fell for it, but to just like you were a pawn in their game. I'll I'll never understand that. And yeah, I mean, all you gotta do is feel sorry for them. You gotta wonder what they're doing now. Yeah, that's that's horrible. And you were excited for the night, you were excited to go out and you know what the night would hold, and you were excited about what had happened, and you know, I'm sure you felt like maybe it could be something, all for it to just like crash down on you, and for them to not even acknowledge when you confront them with their terrible behavior, for them to not even acknowledge, like, hey, you know what? Maybe what we did isn't, you know, okay, or maybe we should think back on it and apologize at the very least. It like, uh, I don't even know. I'm so sorry this happened to you. Yeah, I I can't imagine like there's people I definitely don't like. And I'm doing I'm sure there's a lot of people that don't like me. That's fine. But you know, if I don't like someone, I just refuse to interact with them or, you know, have them in my life. So I'll so I'll just never understand like, you know, hating someone so much that you want to like cause like harm to them, you know, physically, emotionally, mentally, you know, all that. I just that's some evil behavior. I'm horrified that happened to you. I'm really happy. It seems like because you said we were in a prestigious graduates program. So it sounds like this is like a few years behind you. So I'm happy that you've now been able to just like let it go and yeah, just feel sorry for them because they're some sorry ass fucking people. That is horrible. I've never heard of somebody doing something like this. Like I said, this sounds like it's a plot to a movie. And in the end, you know, the bitch always fucking loses. So their loss is that you seem like you would have been an amazing friend, and now they just probably have each other and are miserable together. But yes, it oh, also if you send something long, that's okay. I don't really mind reading a long version of anything. Like, don't feel like you have to like hold back. Um, if it's interesting, I'll read the whole thing. I don't care. But you're definitely right. The Gremlin family would never do something like this. We're way too cool for that. Yeah, fuck those girls. Terrible, terrible people. Ugh. Hate them. Alright, and next, we have the two Gremlin guidance questions. Okay, I saved them for the end because they're both pretty heavy topics. I'm gonna try my best to get through the first one without being emotional. I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do it, but I'm gonna try. Okay, the first one is from Amy, and Amy asks, What do you do when your person is gone? Hi, my name is Amy, and I'm a loyal listener. I'm wondering how do you deal with grief and loss? My best friend of 20 years, we met in third grade, just lost her battle with cancer on December 5th. I made it through the funeral and the holidays with the help of my family and friends, but now that everyone is back to work and school, I feel more alone than ever. I suppose I'm looking for a sense of hope and a light at the end of this extremely dark tunnel. All my best, Amy. Okay. This is one of those times where I am just craving a guest host with me because I am not the best person to ask this question to. Um, I've never dealt with grief well. What I can say is 10 years ago, so this past December was the 10-year anniversary of my Nana's passing. And she raised me, she was like my mom. So with her passing, it really affected me. And I the the thing that I did was I didn't deal with it. I decided to basically numb myself with, you know, drugs and alcohol, and I kind of became a shell of who I used to be. So what I can tell you is don't try to numb yourself to the pain of this, even though, like, you know, you don't want to feel all this grief and all the emotions, but you you want to deal with it now as opposed to, you know, 10 years from now. Um, I never really dealt with it. I have since I guess I don't I see I don't know the right way to put this. I I I the best way I can put it is I guess I've come to terms with it. But even with that, it doesn't sound right. It's like it's not the right context of which to say this. I don't, yeah, I don't I don't have a very well thought out answer, even though I knew I was gonna answer this one for several days, and I really do try to like think of like an answer. But for this one, and I I almost didn't put this in the episode because I didn't have an answer, and I don't want to sound, you know, ignorant or like I'm you know, it's like a word salad. I'm saying a lot of things, but nothing's coming out. But you wrote in and I didn't want to ignore you. So, you know, I probably should have gotten a therapist back then. I should probably get a therapist now. Well, that's a story for a different day. So I would say if you have someone, you know, that you can talk this out with, I think that would be really beneficial for you. Someone who can give you the proper coping tools and mechanisms of which to deal with your grief. For me, you know, I when I took that the two-week break, that unintentional two-week break back in December. One, I was telling the truth, in which there was being, you know, maintenance and construction on the building. But the other part of that was, and I said I didn't wasn't gonna talk about it then, but I I'm gonna talk about it now. It was the 10-year anniversary of my Nana's passing, and I did not deal with it well. I'm still not dealing with it well, but I just didn't, I I didn't think it was gonna hit me as hard as it did. That was a little like shocking to me, and I think that like on top of you know, my sad emotions, I was like, wait, what the hell? Like, what's going on? I had um not like the best time, and December's are usually not my most favorite time of the year. I love Christmas. I like I still have my Christmas decorations up at this point. I need to put them away because it's look now just looking like I'm lazy, but really I'm just trying to squeeze the last like bits of joy out of Christmas because once the Christmas decorations go away, like it just makes the house look so sad. You know, not that I have a sad house, it's just the Christmas decorations just bring so much like light and joy. So December is usually a hard month, but Christmas and the decorations usually make me feel better, I guess. So yeah, just December's like not like a happy month because she had died December 14th or 15th. I don't even know right now. I think it was the 14th. It was the 14th. I get flustered, and then we couldn't have her services until after Christmas because of, you know, the holidays. And so then we couldn't have her service until December 28th. So it was just like a whole like grieving process or like, you know, her death and then the grieving of it, and then we had to grieve again at the services, and it's it was just it was a whole mess, and you know, that came with like a lot of extra bullshit that I won't talk about right now. I will eventually, but not now. So yeah, December's usually hard. But I am happy that you have, you know, people to lean on, and just because like your friends and family have gone back to work or gone back to school doesn't mean that they aren't there for you. It does feel weird when it seems like everyone's life moves on, but you feel like stuck in the same place. But it's good to have like a support system around you. I didn't have that, you know. I don't really have a big family. Um, I I was in a toxic relationship at that time when it happened. So yeah, I just I didn't deal with it the best. Actually, I didn't deal with it at all. And I created bigger problems for myself in my grief. So just don't do that. That's that's really the only guidance I can give you. And I am so sorry for that. I really wish I was a little more eloquent. I'm so sorry I'm not. I think you need to lean on the support system that you currently have, but I do think it would be really beneficial for you to, you know, seek professional help. I feel like that sounds really rude to say, and I don't mean it in a rude way. I just feel like it'd be great for you to talk to someone who is like completely unbiased. They can give you an outsider's perspective and then they can give you the coping tools on how to deal with such a traumatic loss. Not, I feel like I'm not giving you any guidance right now, but that's kind of all I have. I can't, I'm just telling you what I think I should have done for myself, and I didn't. So, yeah, Amy, just know that I'm sending you all the love, but I do hope that this was a a little helpful, even just like an iota of helpfulness that would um make me feel better about this. But I do I really wish I had someone here I could talk about this with, cause someone else who is maybe a little less emotional than I am. But, you know, hopefully I gave you a a little a little bit of guidance. I hope. Okay, and the next question. I almost was just gonna answer this like in an email back to this person, but I feel like I need to somewhat discuss it here. Okay, so she says, Hello, dearie. I wanted to check in with my American girl to see how you are, considering the political state of the United States. We watched the news here and are completely gobsmacked by the stories coming out of your country. Hope you are well and safe. Lamenting in Liverpool. Okay, to see how you are. Um, I'm not well. This it I feel like this it's it's insane. You know, I really love the Hunger Game movies. I didn't think I was gonna have to live it, but it seems like that's the way you were going. Um, you know, when I filmed last week's episode, I had filmed that before the Minneapolis shooting. So I don't want anyone to think I did like was, I don't know, unwilling to talk about it. You know, I've said this before. This is not a political podcast by any means. Number one, because, you know, I liked for this to be like an escape from the atrocities of the world. This is supposed to be a fun podcast where we talk about, you know, funny stories in relationships, something you did that was embarrassing. You know, it's a place for us to all get together and kind of, you know, be goofy and not be embarrassed about like the things we've done or, you know, anything like that. That's like the main point of this podcast. The second part of why it's I don't really like to talk about politics is because I'm not as well educated on it as I want to be. I try to keep myself up to date on everything that's going on, but is there's so many more people that are way more knowledgeable than I am. I'm just a girl who watches the news. That that's that's the extent of my knowledge. And I have my own opinions as well. What I can tell you is what's going on in this country is absolutely atrocious. What happened in Minneapolis was it was murder. I'm I'm not gonna, you know, mince my words. She, Renee Good, was murdered by who I deem an unqualified ICE agent, someone who was trigger happy. And if you you can watch the video all over the place, they have the footage from the it happened in a neighborhood. So they have the footage of all the neighbors on the street who got out their phones and took the video because they did because there was just chaos among them. And then they have the body cam footage of the ICE agents as well as the officer who murdered her. And um it's it's just it's shocking what is happening. And to have of the vice president of the United States state that ICE agents have absolute immunity, I think is a very dangerous statement. And you know, I I was looking at the qualifications to become an ICE officer because someone had said that it's like a matter of days that you can become one. And it's true, it takes longer for you to become a licensed aesthetician or cosmetologist here in the United States than it is to become an ICE agent. If I wanted to, and that was my political belief system, by the time I film the next episode, I could be a full-blown ICE agent. You could see me in the gear. It's ridiculous. I just I think it's it's so embarrassing to now be to say that you live in the United States because I'm sure you know the world thinks like that we voted for this. And in my personal opinion, I don't think he won the election. I think he stole it. And you know, I might get a lot of flack for what I'm saying, but I have the very little platform that I have, I am gonna go on there to speak my truth. Number one, um, because it's my fucking podcast and I can say whatever the fuck I want to. And number two, because it's possible that soon here in America, we might not have free speech if he keeps going the way he's going. So I'm going to say what I want and need to say as long as I am able to say it. Um, you know, they're saying that ICE agents are now going to be going door to door to check for people's legal papers. And um, the last time I can remember that happening was what I read in, you know, my history books in school when the Gestapo was going door to door to check for Jews. So, I mean, it seems like history's rewriting itself. And I think that's scary. And I think it's something that I don't understand why nothing is being done, and I have to hope and pray that there's stuff behind going on behind the scenes that we don't know about, but that is going to advocate for change for the better for us. It's just, it seems like it's not happening quick enough. And it's just kind of like a helpless, hopeless feeling, to be quite honest. And yeah. You know, they he said Trump said that he's going to be sending ICE agents in full force to the blue states, which are the states that did not vote for him, California being one of them. And he said he's going to be hitting Los Angeles hard because we have a very proud Latin community here. So, you know, I don't know what I'm expecting, but I'm not looking forward to it. And I'm very excited for a possible change that's coming because it has to change. That it can't keep going on like this. Like this is it's crazy. It's pretty much all I can say. So, how am I? I'm not well lamenting in Liverpool, and I can't even have a drink to calm my nerves and myself because I'm doing 75 heart. But if this shit continues, then you know, this might turn into a hot toddy or something. I don't know. It's insane. And I'm just hoping and praying for good change, not for not to can not to continue on this path that we are going on because it's it's it's it's frightening to be fair and honest. And I do plan on having somebody on who is much more educated than I am to talk about this. Again, I know it's not a political podcast, but it is important to talk about current events. We like to talk about pop culture sometimes. Current events are just as important. So, with that, I'm going to end the episode. We kind of ended on a somber note, but that's okay. You know, we will persevere. Um, okay, so if you would like to follow myself and the podcast, you may do so on Instagram and TikTok at EmilyTogremilypod. You can also watch this episode and almost all the past episodes on YouTube, Emily to GremlyPod on YouTube. If you have your own Gremlin story, you need Gremlin guidance, or you have a juicy piece of Gremlin gossip, you can email me at EmilyTegremlypod at gmail.com and make sure to either sign your name or write anonymous. And if you have any ideas for future guests, we already have a list compiled right now. But if you have any ideas on people you would like to hear and see on this podcast, make sure to email me again, emily to Gremlypod at gmail.com, or you can message me on Instagram or TikTok, Emily Tegremlypod. And we already have a call to action from Sarah. She really loved the true crime episode we did back in, I think it was October. Um, so we are gonna do another true crime episode. We are also gonna do a ghost and spooky story episode. And that will be starting next week. So this next podcast you hear will be either true crime or ghost and spooky story. I'm not sure which one I'm starting with first. So if you have any of those stories, please make sure to email them in A S A P. If you email them after the episode's already been filmed, no worries. I'm sure we'll be doing another one in the future. So no worries, just try to get them in as soon as possible. And make sure to like, follow, share, subscribe, rate five stars, do all the things. And that's it, guys. All right, well, cheers out with my tea and my baby face. So cheers to you, cheers to me, cheers to positive change in the world. Please, please, please. All right, cheers, these guys. Bye.

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